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Old 10th Nov 2010, 16:37
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Hi RR,

Well, unless I need to go to Specsavers, it ain't a U2...

Now you've named the bands, you just need to tell me which one it is.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 16:40
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Being a yank it would be an Eagle I guess?
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Hi Mechta,

1912 Queen Aeroboat, and it's been Loening not Burgess as the connection?
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b*gger Sh1t c&rse!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done Stig!!!
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 16:49
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Well done SincoTC. The Queen Aeroboat
Loening may well have invented the first flying boat that actually flew. While working at the Queen Aeroplane Company in the absence of his boss, Loening began the quick (and unofficial) construction of a powered flying boat. It was an improved version of the 1909 Aero Club glider, with a full-length hull supporting the tail and wings, as well as small floats under the wing tips to provide stability on the water. Several marginal flights were made in June 1912, a month before Glenn Curtiss flew his flying boat.
Over to you!

Commiserations to Ridge Runner for doing alot of the leg (or mouse) work.
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Thanks RR and sorry !!

I had looked at Loening earlier, but this one escaped me, probably because Aerofiles somehow deemed fit to code it as mid-wing

It will have to be Open House as I'm off very soon (not soon enough though eh Martin )

Good Challenge Mechta, it certainly had me ferreting around too, during my breaks today!!
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 16:53
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Open House it is chaps!

Just for clarification, the answers to the clues:
  • The Queen Aeroplane Company had the licence to build Bleriots in the USA, and it was a pair of Bleriot wings that Loening used.
  • After working for the Queen company, Loening set up his own company. When this was sold to Curtiss-Wright, several of his employees, including Leroy Grumman, set up the Grumman company, which was often known as the 'Grumman Ironworks' on account of the ruggedness of their products.
  • Queen, the rock band, have just changed labels from EMI to Universal.

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ah ha....

I must admit I don't know how to use Aerofiles! I use my only file - my brain!! Ah well....
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Sorry boys. I thought more of you would be on line. I'm travelling in the morning and so I guess it will go under the new 12-hour rule..... unless someone cares to look very soon, as I need to get to bed! RR
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:07
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Looks like another Aerofiles photo mate. American?
I use my only file - my brain!!
I so want to type something....but I won't.

Cheers
The Time Traveller.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:30
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Morning Graeme

Your instincts on the flying boat were correct albeit that it wasn't a Shumaker photo. But it was in Aerofiles. Unforunately I stopped looking when it was implied you were leading me down the garden path - I should have known better!!
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:32
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Evening Ken! Colditz soon?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:35
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At 2200, so in another in just under 1 1/2 hrs time!

RR's challenge certainly looks American - sort of reminds me of a Beech Bonanza with a twin tail ,and fixed undercarriage by the look of it.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:39
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Unforunately I stopped looking
When you "look" you're searching using a description/combination of words in the search section of Aerofiles...right? You're not seriously going through it from A to Z looking at every photo?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:42
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probably because Aerofiles somehow deemed fit to code it as mid-wing
I suspect Sinco is a wizard when it comes to that search engine...
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:42
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you're searching using a descriptioncombination of words in the search section of Aerofiles.
Defintely - there is no way I would go through page by page. Not practical anyway due to our slow internet connection.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:47
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I see. Thanks. So one really needs to know..exactly..how Aerofiles define aircraft shapes and the odd bumps and pieces? For example, Martin's machine...are they "end-plates", "twin-fins", "H-tail"..etc...?
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So one really needs to know..exactly..how Aerofiles define aircraft shapes and the odd bumps and pieces?
Thereby lies the problem - Aerofiles has a series of abbreviations to enable you to search (see the section Data Codes) but not all aircraft descriptions have them and they are pretty limited. Items such as twin/V tails are not covered, unless they are written in the aircraft description. But take the Beech 18 as an example - there is no mention of it having twin tails - which is after all its most recognisable feature!
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 20:13
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Right.

OK then, I will continue to operate according to Plan B. Namely, be patient, bide my time and wait for you and/or Sinco, or someone else to come up with the goods and hopefully the next challenge bypasses Aerofiles...
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 20:18
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Well I gotta keep moving mate, so, enjoy Colditz, good luck with Aerofiles and "I'll catch you later" as they say in the Police Force...
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