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Old 10th Sep 2010, 15:11
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Must be even newer and crazier than it looks.
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It does look crazy, but it's not at all new!! except to you maybe (and as it was to me when I found it!)
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Some funny ground-effect piece? From boys in Riga?

Is the "bat-wing" looking part retractable / deployable?


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Some funny ground-effect piece? From boys in Riga?
RegDep No on both counts!

Although, no doubt it did experience a large ground-effect, I don't think it was in the designers working vocabulary when this was built!

Edited to say no to your edit; the slight discontinuity in the RH trailing edge is caused by deflected control surfaces.

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A German or perhaps an American design?
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Old 10th Sep 2010, 16:15
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This side of the "pond", but not German
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I presume this is not a project and that it did fly....I have this nasty feeling it may be a French design!
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I have this nasty feeling it may be a French design!
One of M. de Monge experiments, no?
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Not a "project", it was classified as experimental (no surprises there!), one built and flown. It is on the web, but not too much detail

Your nast feelings are justified (but don't let Walter hear that), It was French

Edited to say, I don't think M. de Monge was involved, he's certainly not mentioned in anything I've seen about it.
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Breaking off for dinner now, so go for it RegDep.....my last parting thought...something from Wibault?
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Better be 013 please LM, bound to go before I get back to the workshop!!
Don't be so underconfident mate.....

Your nast feelings are justified
wossa nast please................
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Originally Posted by skytrain
Breaking off for dinner now
I said you were a sensible chap the other day!

I'll be around for another couple of hours, by then I'll have sent LM the details to take over if it's not gone.

Not a Wibault though!
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Don't be so underconfident mate.....
Thanks LM, my excuse is that I though Walter was still about, and although it's not in his favourite era, I'm sure he'd instantly recognise it!
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.... he..he..he......
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.... he..he..he......

Sorry, I don't wish to give the wrong impression.

...she..she..she.....

...by then I'll have sent LM the details to take over if it's not gone.
Always give the aeroplane to the student in trim....
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Sorry, I don't wish to give the wrong impression.

...she..she..she..
Well well, I never knew that!

Always give the aeroplane to the student in trim....
"student" I don't think anybody would ever place you in that category mate, you'd handle this baby just fine, even though the original pilots judged it a handful

BTW LM, your treatment of my images is great, sorry the (oops nearly said it ) I mean 015 was a sod!!

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Pull back hard and the cows get bigger and go in circles...........
"disc-wing" aeroplanes cannot possibly be a handful in the civilian world.

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I guess that the only "ground-effect" these guys were worried about was a smoking hole in it!
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I've been looking for disk-wings, bat-wings, Nazi-saucers and whatnot. Have blisters in each 10 fingertips .

AND, IF there is a picture in the web, I must have seen it, but not TODAY sneef .
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It is very frustrating isn't it RegDep !!

I've been looking for disk-wings, bat-wings, Nazi-saucers and whatnot
That's what I liked about it

It is described on one site (with a picture) as a "flying pancake", but before you rush off and get blood in your keyboard, that won't find it either

Apart from the one photo I've found of the real thing, there are a few good pictures of a quite nice scale model on the web, with the correct name, it has a registration on it that doesn't tie up with what I regard as a good list, it is on that list by name, but has no reg! The "real" photo shows the same reg, so I suppose it's an error or omission on the list, helpful innit!!

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