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Old 21st Aug 2010, 15:29
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Ah....enter the Stig.

Done that one mate - it had a radial. Two of us have been running around since breakfast with this one.

A reminder you have one challenge left - I need more mate.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 15:38
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Got the PM mate - thanks.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 15:43
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Afternoon Sinco

Could it be the planned Hungarian Weiss Manfred WM-123 Ezustnyil II
Not the WM-123...and not from Hungary.

Looks like some guidance may be needed....head east.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 15:54
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Surely you don't mean Russia!

I've spent hours there today.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 16:06
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Perhaps Romania then.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 16:13
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Surely you don't mean Russia!
It is from the USSR....time to go back for a 2nd look.....!

To assist your search, this aircraft never flew. The prototype was under construction when the project was cancelled.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 17:44
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The prototype was under construction when the project was cancelled.
In Russia that could be one of thousands!
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In Russia that could be one of thousands!
True, although this aircraft is perhaps better documented than some. The 3-view and photo's of the mock-up are available on the internet.

It's radial engined predecessor did fly and there are certain similarities between the 2 aircraft, particularly the wings and the tail. The challenge aircraft had a V12 licence built Hispano-Suiza engine...its predecessor a licence built Wright Cyclone.
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So its a Polikarpov?
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The only Polikarpov I could find that looks anything like the challenge aircraft is the ITP M-2 prototype but it's wrong on various points.
So probably not a Polikarpov.
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Not a Polikparpov RR

The project was cancelled in 1936. The company concerned was well known for its flying boats as well as land based aircraft.
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Ah, a Beriev!
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Not a Beriev Martin.

Incidentally the reason for the project being cancelled was reportedly due to the government focusing its efforts on the Polikarpov I-16, due to its claimed better performance than the challenge aircraft.

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Old 21st Aug 2010, 22:32
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Grigorovich IP-2 DG-54
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Straight in there Graeme....morning mate....yes its the Grigorovich IP-2, which was to be the successor to the radial engined IP-1. Well done.

No picture of it to post other than that of a mock-up, so I'll hand it over to you.
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Old 21st Aug 2010, 23:16
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You guys still awake?
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Just about to call it a night Graeme....have you got a challenge for me to dream about?!

Closing down now....have a good day mate.

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Old 22nd Aug 2010, 03:50
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Sorry Ken, I was having connection problems at the time.

You should be dreaming of better things than planes mate!

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Good evening Graeme.

Since I can't see the upper surface, did it have more than one crew?

There is also what appears to be something below the rear fuselage which is bigger than a tailwheel.

I am thinking of a certain Yank job.
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G'day mate!

Two-seater.
Illusion I suspect...just the tail-wheel.
Yank.
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