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Old 16th Dec 2009, 14:50
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Struggling on this!!....so the Australian designer had an aircraft named after him which was built by Airspeed. I'm guessing its not an Airspeed aircraft per se, but one that was built at their facility, maybe at Portsmouth or Christchurch?

As for the challenge aircraft, I'm guessing that in light of the above its British? Makes me think of a powered glider conversion, tactical troop transport or the like...maybe something by General Aircraft?
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"Forecasting is a difficult art,"

....and so is finding this bloody aeroplane.

My mouse is wearing out!

I'm out of missiles and 30mm.
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maybe at Portsmouth or Christchurch?
...before they moved south. It was a two seat parasol pusher monoplane . The designer had designed ultra lights for two other UK manufacturers, but had also worked on a monoplane larger than the challenge which actually flew.
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York ain't helping though.
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LM - see lots more stuff edited in
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Are we talking of W S Shackleton? In which case I now know the aircraft that bore his name but none the wiser about the challenge!!
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Shackleton-Murray SM-1 ????????

If correct OH.

I seem to remember Nevil ****e mentions this in hig autobiography, and mentions there was some friction over workmanship.

Edit - Shute - sorry Sir
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LM, the SM-1 is the 2 seat parasol pusher....not the challenge!!
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Would this be a Bristol project?
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The Lasco Lasconder looks like it has the right parentage & designer, but not enough wheels, tailbooms or engines. The all terrain undercarriage of the aircraft to be identified, could also have been useful in Australia.

In its heyday LASCO had over 100 employees. In 1925 it produced an Avro 405K and from its Coode Island factory, established in 1927, emerged the Lascoter (1929), probably the first Australian all-metal aircraft, and the three-engined Lasconder (1933), both designed by W. S. Shackleton.

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Are we talking of W S Shackleton?
William Stancliffe Shackleton, Born Australia 1896. Designer of the ANEC I,II, series of light aircraft for Air Navigation & Engineering Ltd. Then the similar Beardmore Wee Bee for that company, where he also worked on the Inflexible.

With C.L Lee Murray designed the challenge, a project for a 30 seat commercial monoplane, with the wing having some similarities with the Inflexible and the novel landing gear possibly a reaction to the huge wheel of the Inflexible, which is the sole surviving part of that design.

avro avian | beardmore inflexible | 1961 | 0159 | Flight Archive

Subsequently the ultra light Shackleton-Murray SM.1 was built to their designs by Airspeed.

WSS then gave up design and founded an aircraft sales business which became the premier such in the UK and lasted to at least the 1960s

You have control Skytrain 10 , on the grounds that the challenge had no designation other then "30 seat commercial monoplane",but it was a great joint effort. Cheers Doug

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Wow, an excellent challenge, however it was as you say a joint effort, and I only got as far as I did with your help! I can't say that I feel I won the challenge, so Open House guys.
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Evening skytrain.

"LM, the SM-1 is the 2 seat parasol pusher....not the challenge!!"

Wot you on tonight mate - I want some! I didn't say that.

But a very noble open house declaration.

However, here's an easy one if you know where to look:

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Yes indeed; one of the "useful" sights I have bookmarked, better get in before Noyade (thanks for the comment by the way)!

It's the Sombold 344

Open house please as I'm off again!

Good challenge one11
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Sorry LM, my comment was mean't for Diesel Addict!
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Very distinctive, as you say, if you know where to look. The Sombold So 344 'Bomber box buster'


Oops, too late, again.
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SincoTC has hit it in no time and has declared Open House.

Is everyone ready?
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I'd thought of Airspeed?
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SincoTC has hit it in no time and has declared Open House.
Sinco, gonna have to call you the "Silhouette Santa". Moves fast and very generous!

I'd thought of Airspeed?
Sure you did! And you thought of this awhile back and posted a photo, but I don't think anyone asked you what it was?...

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I sure did ......but I can't remember its name!!!! French though!


Now I do.....

the Bleriot 125!
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