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Old 7th Jun 2024, 04:47
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FYI

Most junior 737 Captain Sydney awarded to a 02/17 hire

Most junior WB (A330) FO awarded to a 03/18 hire.

And basically, you could have A320 or 737 from the start. But the A320 was slightly (32 numbers) senior to the 737.

Sydney base the most junior in all those categories.

Slots were awarded into the Adelaide 737 base, so it’s not dead yet.

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Hi all,

Any indication of upcoming courses for externals that are in the hold pool currently? Interviewed in Feb and was told around July/August onwards.

Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by SandyPalms
FYI

Most junior 737 Captain Sydney awarded to a 02/17 hire

Most junior WB (A330) FO awarded to a 03/18 hire.

And basically, you could have A320 or 737 from the start. But the A320 was slightly (32 numbers) senior to the 737.

Sydney base the most junior in all those categories.

Slots were awarded into the Adelaide 737 base, so it’s not dead yet.
Most junior A380 FO slot went to a 2003 (or possibly 2004) joiner.
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The 7 year to command was always going to happen due to the ten year hiatus in recruiting. But all things eventually revert to the mean, and commands will again take twenty years. That an A380 F/O job is senior to a 737 left seat should come as no surprise given the relative conditions for the same money.
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
The 7 year to command was always going to happen due to the ten year hiatus in recruiting. But all things eventually revert to the mean, and commands will again take twenty years. That an A380 F/O job is senior to a 737 left seat should come as no surprise given the relative conditions for the same money.
Id pay to not sit next to some of the 380 skippers. I guess that's why the FOs get paid so much.
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Old 13th Jun 2024, 09:29
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Id pay to not sit next to some of the 380 skippers. I guess that's why the FOs get paid so much.

What a juvenile comment!
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What a juvenile comment!
Oh he’s back

What’s wrong with that comment dopey? I got a bit of a chuckle out of it
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Originally Posted by JamieMaree
What a juvenile comment!
Sorry captain. I'll make sure to save you the snapper from the first class menu, captain.
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Old 13th Jun 2024, 10:19
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One might wonder why this poses an issue. The true luxury of the A380 is that you need not sit beside anyone you find disagreeable, as they can remain in the bunk. It is perfection. It's just oneself and a second officer.

As for the snapper, the Grange' will of course overpower the Snapper. A trip to the cellar might be in order.

Prost.
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Originally Posted by morno
Oh he’s back

What’s wrong with that comment dopey? I got a bit of a chuckle out of it
Those who have that attitude tend to become the a**eholes if they make it to the LH seat.
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Originally Posted by JamieMaree
Those who have that attitude tend to become the a**eholes if they make it to the LH seat.
Nah mate, we’re the ones with a sense of humour and relaxed attitude.

How would you know anyway, Mr Engineer?
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Originally Posted by morno
Nah mate, we’re the ones with a sense of humour and relaxed attitude.

How would you know anyway, Mr Engineer?

I listen to them when they are doing the walkarounds.

Put yourself in the Captain’s position when he gets a whacker occupying the RH seat.
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Originally Posted by JamieMaree
I listen to them when they are doing the walkarounds.

Put yourself in the Captain’s position when he gets a whacker occupying the RH seat.
Ah so you’re an expert on the topic then, noted.

I wouldn’t think many A380 captains do many walk arounds, especially when most of their flights are 4 crew.
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Old 13th Jun 2024, 13:35
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
The 7 year to command was always going to happen due to the ten year hiatus in recruiting. But all things eventually revert to the mean, and commands will again take twenty years. That an A380 F/O job is senior to a 737 left seat should come as no surprise given the relative conditions for the same money.
737 command well junior to a380 FO. A380 FO is not far from 330 command. Also, 737 command junior to 787 FO.

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It's hardly surprising. Lot's of jq FOs choose to go to the 787 rather than take commands also. It's the terrible lifestyle on offer from domestic flying in Australia. Who wants to do 3 or 4 sector 11 hour days, 5 or 6 days per week. You're always coping delays through Sydney or Melbourne, running late
Or, you can do one sector and get off, less stress, less fatigue. I think it's the easiest choice in the world.
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Originally Posted by cLeArIcE
It's hardly surprising. Lot's of jq FOs choose to go to the 787 rather than take commands also. It's the terrible lifestyle on offer from domestic flying in Australia. Who wants to do 3 or 4 sector 11 hour days, 5 or 6 days per week. You're always coping delays through Sydney or Melbourne, running late
Or, you can do one sector and get off, less stress, less fatigue. I think it's the easiest choice in the world.
I think it’s the lack of protections to your assigned roster due to poor EBAs in JQ and QF (SH). This creates roster fatigue. Sick calls to protect one’s pay which has a flow on effect to others which then causes further roster satisfaction issues. This is well known thanks to forums like this as well as word of mouth. It may not be there yet but it’s close to where management will need to “sweeten the pot” with protections to assigned rosters. The status quo is not sustainable imo.
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Old 14th Jun 2024, 15:59
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Anyone happen to know when/if applications will reopen?
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Old 14th Jun 2024, 20:51
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Originally Posted by ReBjorn
Anyone happen to know when/if applications will reopen?
I think they have enough applicants on file to interview for the rest of the year. However as always check back on a regular basis as things change.
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Anyone happen to know when/if applications will reopen?
Was told in a recent interview that they will tentatively open applications again towards the end of the year.
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Anyone who's recently done the assessment centre and gotten the "active hold" email receive any further correspondence after that? I assume the next step would be references but it's just been silence. Thanks!
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