QF A380 Maintenance thread (merged)
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he is already doing it...why do you think he was mentioning how QF management are demanding...he will form part of their WEDGE...straight between any negotiations....it is so obvious that it is funny...by the way what is JH track record with EBA's, are there any particular instances that are similar to todays environment...mmmm let me see...or will i wait for ROM to clarify....please outline JH previous EBA form
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Smart negotiators use leverage...i cannot see any leverage...in fact the battle is lost ..... this simple 380 negotiation will result in victory, but to who???.....the EBA will be a non event...and later there will be many questions asked.......and it will be another non event
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There is a way you could get all there work secure with JHAS overnight, wouldn't you like to know. I know!
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Hey Romulus,
How's recruiting going for Tiger's line maintanance?
How's recruiting going for Tiger's line maintanance?
Are you planning on having LAME's based at other ports yet to cover there turnarounds or will you have flying spanners out of Melbourne?
Also if and when you get the A380 line work how do you plan on keeping the guy's occupied at ports like Brissy and Sydney if they only have 1 or 2 aircraft a day?
Keep up the good work.
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Fox Mulder would be proud
he is already doing it...why do you think he was mentioning how QF management are demanding...
he will form part of their WEDGE...
straight between any negotiations....
it is so obvious that it is funny...
straight between any negotiations....
it is so obvious that it is funny...
For what it's worth QE mgt are fighting like hell to keep the work in house. If it was a pure logic argument we'd have a much stronger position right about now.
by the way what is JH track record with EBA's, are there any particular instances that are similar to todays environment...mmmm let me see...or will i wait for ROM to clarify....please outline JH previous EBA form
You think there's a skills shortgae in aviation - it's nothing compared to what we face in our main industries. So you can bet we aim to keep our people happy and encourage retention.
Equally we don't let the d*ckhead minority run the joint so if your question pertains to do we expect performance for what we deliver then the answer is yes.
Please bear in mind it would be much easier to give you a direct answer if you asked a direct question. But so often that isn't the hallmark of the coward, innuendo is more their style.
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Rom.. Question
Are there any instances where JH has used tere power to influence EBA negotiations, with the result being more business to them....simple question yes or no...
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Are there any instances where JH has used tere power to influence EBA negotiations, with the result being more business to them....simple question yes or no...
Qantas management may well try and emulate what we are doing, that's a different story however.
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Originally Posted by wingers
Rom...can you answer the question, i never mentioned the Qantas EBA.... ..............it is a simple question Yes or No.........
So with another slight qualification: Have we ever attempted to influence anyone else's (i.e. non John Holland) EBA negotiations? No we have not.
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I'd love to here some of JHAS's new business MISSION STATEMENTS. Would you enlighten us all roms?
For what it's worth I hate mission statements as a complete wank.
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Good point,
The last time i sore M working was in modules 20 years ago, useless then.
M has had no experiance in base,line yet he is in charge.
I think all lame's should have a murray moment and just realize the guy is a f&&k w&t.
Just look at all the promotions in the last few years,
All you need now is a good response to 10 questions, none of which are technical,but as management say all LAME'S are equal,no need to know if you can do anything with your hands or your mind
All the good guys are leaving and will ed up with JETSTAR or JOHN HOLLAND and you are mistaken if you think QF will not give away work.
The last time i sore M working was in modules 20 years ago, useless then.
M has had no experiance in base,line yet he is in charge.
I think all lame's should have a murray moment and just realize the guy is a f&&k w&t.
Just look at all the promotions in the last few years,
All you need now is a good response to 10 questions, none of which are technical,but as management say all LAME'S are equal,no need to know if you can do anything with your hands or your mind
All the good guys are leaving and will ed up with JETSTAR or JOHN HOLLAND and you are mistaken if you think QF will not give away work.
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5 year/$100,000 bond
Will try to kickstart this thread.
Have just heard JHAS require a 5year/$100,000 bond for A380.
Me thinks a bit excessive.
By all accounts they think the A380 contract is nearly in the bag!
Have just heard JHAS require a 5year/$100,000 bond for A380.
Me thinks a bit excessive.
By all accounts they think the A380 contract is nearly in the bag!
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Have just heard JHAS require a 5year/$100,000 bond for A380.
Me thinks a bit excessive.
Me thinks a bit excessive.
By all accounts they think the A380 contract is nearly in the bag!
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G'day Rom
Welcome back, I have missed your input.
So you agree 5yrs/$100K is a bit excessive? I hope you can convince those at JHAS to reduce to 3 years max?
When I said they b4, I meant JHAS think the A380 contract is nearly there's.
So you agree 5yrs/$100K is a bit excessive? I hope you can convince those at JHAS to reduce to 3 years max?
When I said they b4, I meant JHAS think the A380 contract is nearly there's.
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Welcome back, I have missed your input.
So you agree 5yrs/$100K is a bit excessive? I hope you can convince those at JHAS to reduce to 3 years max?
When I said they b4, I meant JHAS think the A380 contract is nearly there's.
So you agree 5yrs/$100K is a bit excessive? I hope you can convince those at JHAS to reduce to 3 years max?
When I said they b4, I meant JHAS think the A380 contract is nearly there's.
The big problem with bonds in this situation is not that the LAMEs will want to leave, rather someone like Emirates will come along and make some offer to move to Dubai. The problem here isn't the cost of training, it's the loss of capability in the event EK or similar pinch too many people given teh scarcity of A380 training slots.
As for in the bag - nope. we're pushing hard to make a good offering and we have a good chance. I'd still rate us at 40% at best however. That is much better than the 5% we gave ourselves at the start.
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Thanx Rom
I can see your point, although EK would have to pay much better than they are now to get me to the sandpit.
I hope you can also see my point? 5 years is a long time for someone to commit to an employer who they have never worked for, and under an AWA that they are a bit wary and unsure about.
Goodluck with the 380 contract, it's good to have a new player on the OZ aviation scene, and I hope QF is not just playing games with you.
I hope you can also see my point? 5 years is a long time for someone to commit to an employer who they have never worked for, and under an AWA that they are a bit wary and unsure about.
Goodluck with the 380 contract, it's good to have a new player on the OZ aviation scene, and I hope QF is not just playing games with you.