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pilotwolf
25th Feb 2003, 00:54
Not sure redundancy is the right word but couldn't think of another way to put it.

I was wondering how close to the minimum number of cabin crew required by the regulations your company operates?

Is the loss of one member of the crew sufficent to bring you below the minimum required or do you have sufficent 'redundency' to cover sickness, etc. whilst enroute?

Saw an incident where one injured crew brought the flight below minimums and the subsequent pax/crew/airline problems. Is this a common occurance?

fizgog
25th Feb 2003, 01:23
HEY,

I THINK CABIN CREW INCAPACITATION WAS THE PHRASE YOU WERE LOOKING FOR!

DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF OPERATION I THINK. FOR EXAMPLE, LOW COST CXR'S LIKE EASYJET, GO, BUZZ ETC OPERATE WITH ONLY MINIMUM CABIN CREW. WHICH SAY FOR A B737 WOULD BE THREE. WHERAS BA OR SIMILAR CAN OPERATE THE SAME A/C TYPE WITH SIX OR SEVEN CABIN CREW.

IVE FLOWN AS F/A WITH BOTH TYPES OF AIRLINES AND I GUESS AS ALL EASYJET FLTS OPERATE WITH MINIMUM CABIN CREW, THEN IF SOMEONE GOES SICK OR IS INJURED DOWNROUTE THEN YES, THIS DOES CAUSE OPERATIONAL PROBLEMS. IN EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES I THINK THE PAX LOAD CAN BE REDUCED IN ORDER TO OPERATE
WITH LESS THAN MINIMUM CREW, BUT I DONT THINK THIS IS TOO COMMON AN OCCURENCE. :) :D ;) :p :O :=

AViON calling!!
25th Feb 2003, 09:40
I think it all depends on aircraft type, how many crew you carry, how many passengers you carry and which country you operate from.

In Australia we have a rule, 32 (or is it 36) pax to 1 crew member, and the crew compliment has to be in line with that. Minimum crew can happen (depending on the airline) just so long as the numbers add up and exits are covered. This obviously differs with other countries and even here they are trying to push for 50pax to 1 crew member.

If someone went sick say overseas it shouldn't make too much difference but if the pax load exceeded the crew requirement, from my understanding they would have to offload pax. This can cause problems for smaller a/c types. What do you fly? A 747 should be able to handle the cutback of crew but again that depends on the airline and country you operate with/from.

Hope this helps.

idgas
25th Feb 2003, 22:05
fizgog

Please don't shout. I can see you are not happy, but capital letters (SHOUTING) make your posts hard to read.

Cheers, :cool:

fizgog
27th Feb 2003, 00:52
idgas,


Im sorry. I just have a thing about capitals. Didnt mean to burst your eardrums! If you come across any other of my posts then try shoving your fingers in your logg-holes when you're reading it. Usually does the trick! :p

flyblue
28th Feb 2003, 08:04
fizzy,

I think it's not just idgas who finds capitals hard to read. It's an internet etiquette: capitals mean shouting! :ouch:
Thanks for switching back to normal, it would be a bit odd to have the whole CC with, ehm, you meant fingers in your ears, did you?