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Cabby
2nd Jun 2024, 14:05
While on holiday in the Caribbean I read a press report about a police helicopter which had a hard landing a while ago, and the crew were suing Airbus for injuries

The press news doesn't say what their injuries were?

Did Airbus pay them? What did the accident report say?

https://www.caymancompass.com/2022/03/06/rcips-members-sue-airbus-for-injuries-from-aborted-takeoff/

212man
2nd Jun 2024, 16:39
While on holiday in the Caribbean I read a press report about a police helicopter which had a hard landing a while ago, and the crew were suing Airbus for injuries

The press news doesn't say what their injuries were?

Did Airbus pay them? What did the accident report say?

https://www.caymancompass.com/2022/03/06/rcips-members-sue-airbus-for-injuries-from-aborted-takeoff/
Report is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f452d5fd3bf7f69a60dc911/Eurocopter_EC135T1_VP-CPS_01-20.pdf

Hard to imagine how severe their injuries were if they hit the ground from 4 ft going backwards!

FloaterNorthWest
2nd Jun 2024, 16:55
And of course the aircraft was maintained i.a.w the manufacturers instructions during its whole life and for a salt laden environment once it arrived in the Caymans including marinisation?

212man
2nd Jun 2024, 16:56
And of course the aircraft was maintained i.a.w the manufacturers instructions during its whole life and for a salt laden environment once it arrived in the Caymans including marinisation?
Exactly! Writing on my phone limits my enthusiasm for extended typing……

twinstar_ca
2nd Jun 2024, 19:32
Report is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f452d5fd3bf7f69a60dc911/Eurocopter_EC135T1_VP-CPS_01-20.pdf

Hard to imagine how severe their injuries were if they hit the ground from 4 ft going backwards!
it does say minor injuries..

212man
2nd Jun 2024, 19:45
it does say minor injuries..
Yes and they exited unaided.

2nd Jun 2024, 22:06
Poor maintenance protocols in a maritime environment - sounds pretty standard for the Caribbean

Cabby
4th Jun 2024, 13:01
Report is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f452d5fd3bf7f69a60dc911/Eurocopter_EC135T1_VP-CPS_01-20.pdf

Hard to imagine how severe their injuries were if they hit the ground from 4 ft going backwards!

Thanks for the report 212man. The seat are a crash collapsable type I believe. Wonder what the claim states about the injuries.

Did the pilot, and pc start flying again in the new aircraft? The AAIB Report states that the pilot in command was 58 in 2019, so he may have now retired due to age?

Can't see they reason for the claim, as the AAIB report states in its CONCLUSION that the failure was due to corrosion by salt moisture,

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f452d5fd3bf7f69a60dc911/Eurocopter_EC135T1_VP-CPS_01-20.pdf

212man
4th Jun 2024, 14:03
Thanks for the report 212man. The seat are a crash collapsable type I believe. Wonder what the claim states about the injuries.

Did the pilot, and pc start flying again in the new aircraft? The AAIB Report states that the pilot in command was 58 in 2019, so he may have now retired due to age?

Can't see they reason for the claim, as the AAIB report states in its CONCLUSION that the failure was due to corrosion by salt moisture,

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f452d5fd3bf7f69a60dc911/Eurocopter_EC135T1_VP-CPS_01-20.pdf
The report says "minor injuries", and the AAIB do not actually define what that means in their online documentation. But, from their definition of 'serious', it is clear that anything other is really not that big a deal. They don't even discuss the nature of the injuries further in the report, so it's really quite curious......

tdracer
4th Jun 2024, 17:56
You can sue for damn near anything - the hard part is actually recovering money - enough money to make it worthwhile while paying all the legal fees.
So, did Airbus pay anything?
On this side of the pond, we have a big issue with frivolous lawsuits - unless the defendant can win a summary judgement, it's often cheaper for the insurance to settle than to go to court and pay all the lawyer fees (which of course what the people filing the frivolous lawsuits are hoping for).

Cabby
6th Jun 2024, 14:49
Press coverage including pictures taken on the day of the bounce with the crew inspecting the damage. Police stated there were no injuries!

https://www.caymancompass.com/2019/02/26/police-helicopter-damaged-during-takeoff/


More news regarding the payout to the RCIP to partly cover the cost of a new aircraft.

https://caymannewsservice.com/2022/03/helicopter-cops-sue-manufacturer-over-oria-crash/

Cabby
6th Jun 2024, 14:57
Noticed in the press link on the last post there is court page link. If the pilot was injured, how did continue flying in the EC145 new aircraft?

This is the court document.
https://judicial.ky/court_search/#

Enter the applicant name (shown in the press coverage) in the Keyword box. Case G2022-0048

Beafer
18th Jun 2024, 08:49
Questions:
2 of the 3 crew members filed the claim a long time after the bumpy landing? Did they go to hospital? What was the outcome of the financial claim?