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Chiefttp
8th May 2024, 11:53
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-boeing-767-s-nose-scrapes-along-runway-at-istanbul-airport/vi-BB1m1oVM?cvid=fc68886cc03d4b118b6e62d53f24b32b&ei=35&ocid=socialshare
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1038x1274/img_0235_a56c84d6327b699d078cfc6f6bb01b5753270787.jpeg
No Injuries
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/387728
FedEx Express flight FX6238, a Boeing 767-3S2F, performed a nosegear-up landing on runway 16R at Istanbul Airport (IST).
The initial approach to runway 16R was aborted at 04:38 UTC, after which the aircraft made another approach before circling for a landing with emergency services standing by at 05:17.
sangiovese.
8th May 2024, 13:24
Good to see the press have already blamed Boeing…..
Looking at the video I’d say that’s good work by the crew. Couldn’t help noticing the nose gear doors appeared to be open - nose gear clearly hung up on something :confused:
Chocks stowed by ground crew?
Sailvi767
8th May 2024, 15:03
The 767 nose gear doors droop like that when the hydraulic system is not pressurized.
Yes I know - the mains were closed so there was hyd pressure available.
frieghtdog2000
8th May 2024, 15:34
The GEAR DISAGREE QRH leads to operating the ALTN GEAR EXTEND switch which uses an electric motor to trip the locking mechanism for each gear. This releases all door and gear uplocks which allows the gear to freefall. Presumably it did not.
Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP
8th May 2024, 15:41
Main gear doors are clearly down so the crew have used the ALTN GEAR system. Nothing much else they could do after that.
DogTailRed2
8th May 2024, 19:05
Is there no way to hand crank the gear on modern aircraft?
Chiefttp
8th May 2024, 21:19
Main gear doors are clearly down so the crew have used the ALTN GEAR system. Nothing much else they could do after that.
I used to think that as well, but the LOT gear up incident and the FedEx 757 last year indicate that a popped circuit breaker caused the alternate system to fail in both cases. As a 757/767 Pilot, I have memorized the location of those CB’s just in case. In this case, since only the nose gear failed to extend, I’m going to guess it was a mechanical jam.
MechEngr
8th May 2024, 22:51
In a video of the incident, the pilots are shown leaving the cockpit via the side window.
Would the usual doors jam?
Had an unusual, well, I thought so, failure of the nose gear on a helo to extend, all caused by the failure of the oleo to extend on take off. Jammed up against the hydraulic actuator and bent same locking the gear permanently in place.
2014 build... practically brand new as far as freighters go.
My bet is this will fly again.
Anilv
In a video of the incident, the pilots are shown leaving the cockpit via the side window.
Would the usual doors jam?
I thought that it was standard procedure for the crew to escape directly from the cockpit?
Sailvi767
9th May 2024, 20:20
Yes I know - the mains were closed so there was hyd pressure available.
There would not have been hydraulic pressure when the picture was taken. No pressure they droop. Often asked question on checkride pre flights.
Lake1952
9th May 2024, 23:39
2014 build... practically brand new as far as freighters go.
My bet is this will fly again.
Anilv
Without a doubt...damage appears to be minor at first glance.
Simplythebeast
10th May 2024, 08:58
Got to love the Media coverage though….this from GB News…
“Footage shows the plane performing an emergency landing as it smashes into the runway.
Horror video footage also shows sparks and smoke funnelling from underneath the plane”.
NudgingSteel
10th May 2024, 08:58
Yes I know - the mains were closed so there was hyd pressure available.
https://www.newsweek.com/fedex-boeing-plane-emergency-landing-malfunction-1898330
Not sure if this link will work (otherwise just google "fedex emergency ist" or similar) but halfway down is a video clip clearly showing the main gear doors open at touchdown. Good work by the crew, with an intact 767 safely stopped on the centreline.
krismiler
12th May 2024, 07:12
Open main gear doors which suggests ALTN gear extension was used, the nose gear seems to have jammed which was probably the reason for the missed approach. It seems to have been well handled, general advice is to gently lower the nose onto the tarmac while still under control rather than holding off until it smashes on.
The aircraft will probably fly again after some skin bashing, plenty of spare parts available from all the B767s sitting in boneyards.