Fuel log sheet

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Is it a FAA regulation to have a fuel log sheet , or is the only requirement uplift and total on board for each flight.

[Check Airman]

I'm not sure what a fuel log sheet is, but if you're referring to the fuelling slip from the fuellers, at my company we don't normally get it.

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Thanks, it is used to check for discrepancies between usage and fuel burn, I think it is part of maintenance programme

[BoeingDriver99]

How do you check the correct fuel was loaded without the uplift from the refueller?

[ECENE]

You’re not referring to the OFP, are you?

[B2N2]

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Is it a FAA regulation to have a fuel log sheet , or is the only requirement uplift and total on board for each flight.

Which regulation are you referring too?
Often with FAA regulations it doesn’t specify the method of compliance just the requirement.

So…how are you planning your fuel, what resources are you using and how are you keeping track of fuel burn during your flight to ensure it meets the plan?

[Check Airman]

How do you check the correct fuel was loaded without the uplift from the refueller?

We check via the fuel indication on the ECAM/EICAS. Not sure why I’d be concerned with how much fuel had to be added to reach the required quantity. Does your company require that?

[AirbusPilotUK]

My company requires this just as a gross error check. Does yours not?

[MarkerInbound]

Used to get a sheet from maintenance. They would show the fuel weight prior to fueling, the gallons added and the fuel density and the weight at the end of fueling. I think it was mainly to keep track of how much fuel was added to ensure the fueling company wasn’t faking their bill.

[AerocatS2A]

We check via the fuel indication on the ECAM/EICAS. Not sure why I’d be concerned with how much fuel had to be added to reach the required quantity. Does your company require that?
How do you check the quantity indicators for reasonableness? We check prior remaining plus amount added (from fuel docket) equals total, within a certain margin.

[Amadis of Gaul]

My company requires this just as a gross error check. Does yours not?

I believe you're referring to what is sometimes called a "fuel reasonableness check" or " fuel sanity check", that is the previous crew would log how much they came in with, while we would make sure that that number plus the uplift would add up to what the ECAM shows. My company did away with that procedure several years back.

[TURIN]

We check via the fuel indication on the ECAM/EICAS. Not sure why I’d be concerned with how much fuel had to be added to reach the required quantity. Does your company require that?
In forty years fuelling aeroplanes from all over the world, multiple types, airlines and NAA regulators, every single one has required a fuel discrepancy check of some sort.
Typically a cross check between the planned uplift: Fuel qty required minus fuel on board before refuelling, and the actual uplift adjusted from a volume (litres) to a weight (KGs or Lbs).
The difference between the two has to be within a set tolerance. On larger aircraft it was dependant on total fuel load, on the smaller types it was a standard amount EG 350KGs.
If it was out of tolerance then a stick/drip check was performed.
I honestly thought this was standard procedure across the world.

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Hi all, thanks for your replies, all companies I have worked for always had a way to monitor fuel uplifts and burn. Unfortunately the maintenance are lacking here, if there is regulation I will have to get the ex mgrs involved and get it enforced.
Much appreciated for all your insights

[Check Airman]

I’m not aware of any large US airline that routinely provides fuel slips to crews. The last time I got one was last year, and it was more of a curiosity than anything else. At cruise, we fished it out of the trash and tried to figure how much we’d have to pay to put that much fuel into our personal cars.



At my company, there’s no (convenient) way to check how much fuel it arrived with. That number isn’t much use anyway. How long was the APU running?



Good point about the fuel quantity indicators though. I assume this is a maintenance function? For those who do the check to verify the FQIS is reading properly, how often do you find it’s out of tolerance?

[mustafagander]

As I understand it, most jurisdictions in the world require a fuel "how goes it" sheet to be maintained for RPT ops.
Obviously fuel actual uplift/planned uplift discrepancy must be resolved prior to departure.
Kinda familiar with that stuff - pilot and flight engineer for about 46 years on the jets.