Fly4 airlines

[gainanduru]

Hi,

just wondering if anyone has more information regarding this start up ?
They are desperately seeking both Capt And FO on the B737
pay , rostering and commuting etc …..
it’s a joint venture between TUI and Enter Air and it’s to operate on behalf of TUI in the summer from some UK bases.
just wondering about their outlook and if it’s worth leaving a major LCC for this lot.

[deltahotel]

Do you have EASA licence/medical?

[gainanduru]

Yes both EASA and UK licence type rated B737

[deltahotel]

Kind of weird to have a non G reg airline operating out of UK bases. Not quite sure how that works, regulatory wise.

No great personal axe to grind here, but curious to see how that. works. Obviously targeted at EI pilots, but not sure how other nationalities fit into right to work in the UK?

[ShamrockF]

They had an information document circulating a few months ago noting the following.

Captain

€134,000 basic
€40 p/h variable pay from 501 hours
Total pay €149,000

First Officer

€75,000 basic
€24 p/h variable pay from 501 hours
Total pay €84,576

Second Officer (Under 1,499 flt hours or not on type)

€63,750 basic
€18.50 variable pay from 501 hours
Total pay €71,131

Allowances:

Day Off Payment €400
Uniforms (cleaning) €500
Mobile phone allowance €500

Roster is 6/4 with others being considered
5% Employer / 5% Employee match pension

[Pizza Express]

Shocking terms I doubt they will get anyone, especially not a European pilot considering the pay war and pilot shortages.

[oceancrosser]

What could possibly go wrong?

[TheGlide]

Looks like Fly4 are due to operate TUI charter flights out of BHX, Lots of those flights are through the night, wondering have crew been made aware of that?

Plus in terms of flexibility required under contract with no further explanation is slightly concerning.

[Harry Grout]

Looks like Fly4 are due to operate TUI charter flights out of BHX, Lots of those flights are through the night, wondering have crew been made aware of that?

Plus in terms of flexibility required under contract with no further explanation is slightly concerning.

Most pilots fly during the night. Charter, long haul, low cost and freight. If they want a 9-5 job, aviation isn't for them.

[vrb03kt]

I'm sure very few flying jobs are 9-5 but not every company does these deep nights on short haul landing back into the UK at 5, 6, 7, 8am regularly during the summer. It's brutal, and that is what is being referred to here.

[flyboy146]

Hi,

just wondering if anyone has more information regarding this start up ?
They are desperately seeking both Capt And FO on the B737
pay , rostering and commuting etc …..
it’s a joint venture between TUI and Enter Air and it’s to operate on behalf of TUI in the summer from some UK bases.
just wondering about their outlook and if it’s worth leaving a major LCC for this lot.

do not touch with a MAX sized barge pole.