Outrage

[controlledrest]

HKG CEO and CX CEO express outrage at the 'disrespect' some cabin crew apparently showed towards a pax asking for carpet.

Where was the outrage when pilots were committing suicide in response to consequences of covid policies and POS18?

[Babyjet_dododo]

HKG CEO and CX CEO express outrage at the 'disrespect' some cabin crew apparently showed towards a pax asking for carpet.

Where was the outrage when pilots were committing suicide in response to consequences of covid policies and POS18?

Its only considered outrage when it involves a mainlander.

[Bekol delay]

I don't recall the outrage when the taxi drivers were conning and defrauding mainlanders on taxi fares though.

[Freehills]

Eh - just the mainland reminding Swire that they are still on probation, even after purging management

[ZootBoot]

Where was the outrage when pilots were committing suicide in response to consequences of covid policies and POS18?

I take your point, but you have to be fair. When those horrible events happened, the GMA, HR & the accountants in those departments had to open many, many spreadsheets. Not just one, but many different spreadsheets looking at all kinds of dollar values. It also meant that some of departments were forced to talk to one another, something that is culturally abnormal at a Swire Company. They then had to scroll and scroll and scroll until they eventually found that persons name and then press the 'DEL' button, on every spreadsheet.

It could sometimes be hours before they saw how much their bonus was impacted.

[Babyjet_dododo]

I don't recall the outrage when the taxi drivers were conning and defrauding mainlanders on taxi fares though.

Taking down a taxi driver, is far less impressive than complaining about an airline, especially an airline that are run by people that they consider is beneath them

[Dragon Pacific]

This whole “scandal”, and it appears to be a manufactured scandal, is just one unintended consequence of closing Dragon. The mainland was their bread and butter, the cabin crew knew and respected many of the regular passengers and were happy in their job. The brand was strong, developed over many years. Now they are having to promote the green brand in China virtually from scratch and not getting off to a good start. The moaning you hear from Cathay crew, both pilots and cabin crew, about having to fly the minibus to China is pure prima donna.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/3222005/cathay-pacific-discrimination-scandal-airline-has-work-cut-out-fix-image-bosses-must-not-forget?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage

[AQIS Boigu]

The elephant in the room...Letters | Does recording of Cathay Pacific cabin crew breach privacy law?Readers discuss an audio recording that resulted in the firing of three airline staff
It is a pity that three Cathay Pacific cabin crew members were sacked this week (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/3221500/hong-kongs-cathay-pacific-apologises-after-passenger-accuses-cabin-crew-discrimination-and-insulting?module=inline&pgtype=article) after their private conversation, in which they poured scorn on travellers from the mainland who struggled to speak English, went public.

Cathay swiftly took action after an audio recording of their casual chat was shared on the hugely popular Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu. The incident was also picked up by People’s Daily, which published an online commentary criticising Cathay’s corporate culture for “worshipping foreigners” and respecting Hongkongers but looking down on mainlanders.

One neglected aspect of the whole affair was the secret taping of the private chat between the flight attendants by a passenger seated near their work area. The Office of the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data should come forward and explain to the public whether such an act of recording a private conversation breaches the local privacy law.

Understandably, the passenger who heard the exchange – a mainlander who has lived in Hong Kong for over a decade – was upset with the flight attendants poking fun at a mainland traveller who couldn’t speak English, but does that justify secretly recording the conversation and exposing it to the media?

They sounded unkind but the chat was a lighthearted exchange among colleagues in their own rest area. There is no reason it should be blown up into an issue about discrimination resulting in sackings.

The mainland market is, of course, crucial to any company, Cathay Pacific included. But a balance needs to be struck between non-discriminatory service and decency by passengers with due regard for personal privacy.

Y. Yeung, Mid-Levelshttps://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3221887/does-recording-cathay-pacific-cabin-crew-breach-privacy-law?module=opinion&pgtype=homepage

[All hat and no cows]

Outrage from a country who enslaves entire ethnic groups with their children into forced labor,.. another reason to lampoon China.

[Klimax]

Honestly, who gives a sh@t what two goons and tugs thinks! The place is turning into just another China sh@thole. Maybe Winnie the Pooh cares??

[Klimax]

The elephant in the room...Letters | Does recording of Cathay Pacific cabin crew breach privacy law?Readers discuss an audio recording that resulted in the firing of three airline staff
It is a pity that three Cathay Pacific cabin crew members were sacked this week (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/3221500/hong-kongs-cathay-pacific-apologises-after-passenger-accuses-cabin-crew-discrimination-and-insulting?module=inline&pgtype=article) after their private conversation, in which they poured scorn on travellers from the mainland who struggled to speak English, went public.

Cathay swiftly took action after an audio recording of their casual chat was shared on the hugely popular Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu. The incident was also picked up by People’s Daily, which published an online commentary criticising Cathay’s corporate culture for “worshipping foreigners” and respecting Hongkongers but looking down on mainlanders.

One neglected aspect of the whole affair was the secret taping of the private chat between the flight attendants by a passenger seated near their work area. The Office of the Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data should come forward and explain to the public whether such an act of recording a private conversation breaches the local privacy law.

Understandably, the passenger who heard the exchange – a mainlander who has lived in Hong Kong for over a decade – was upset with the flight attendants poking fun at a mainland traveller who couldn’t speak English, but does that justify secretly recording the conversation and exposing it to the media?

They sounded unkind but the chat was a lighthearted exchange among colleagues in their own rest area. There is no reason it should be blown up into an issue about discrimination resulting in sackings.

The mainland market is, of course, crucial to any company, Cathay Pacific included. But a balance needs to be struck between non-discriminatory service and decency by passengers with due regard for personal privacy.

Y. Yeung, Mid-Levelshttps://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3221887/does-recording-cathay-pacific-cabin-crew-breach-privacy-law?module=opinion&pgtype=homepage

There is ZERO room for logic or any level of self thinking left in Hong Kong after the "decision" to go all in mainland China. There is only one way now. Suck it up - or get another passport - or get out of the pollution. It´s a "free" choice.

[arse]

Ditch the SCMP. Try HKFP.

https://hongkongfp.com/2023/05/26/the-cathay-flight-attendant-scandal-can-we-all-grow-up/

[LootedfromCPA]

So an Uyghur man was abducted by the commies after being onboard one of the cathay flights? Now you know when it's time to leave for good.

"According to Amnesty, Abuduwaili was on a Cathay Pacific flight from Seoul to Hong Kong that was scheduled to land at 11 pm (1500 GMT) on May 10, according to Amnesty. Airline Cathay Pacific did not respond to questions on whether he was on board."

https://hongkongfp.com/2023/05/28/hong-kong-blasts-amnesty-over-missing-uyghur-man-allegation/

[mngmt mole]

Okay CX. Was he or was he not on the flight? Seems a pretty simple point to confirm. I suspect the airline once again is finding the reality of post 2019 HK is a bit too difficult to deal with effectively. This is the spiral downwards CX will not be able to avoid. ICAO and IATA have pretty strict rules regarding passenger lists. So, again...was he on the flight?

[YeahNahYeah]

Eh - just the mainland reminding Swire that they are still on probation, even after purging management

hope this muppet and the one in singapore get put on the no fly lists.

to quote the great ricky stuart, 'it ain't on." (rest censored because of the animal mentioned!)

[Chicken_nugget]

Those cabin crew may not be talking about the passenger on that Chinese flight, who knows it could be about another flight. Yet, the Chinese mainlanders think they are offended.

[Progress Wanchai]

Personally I found the expectations of the cabin crew unreasonable.

What sort of linguistical skills did they expect from someone who can’t tell a bat from food while being educated by a despot dictatorship?

[Freehills]

Okay CX. Was he or was he not on the flight? Seems a pretty simple point to confirm. I suspect the airline once again is finding the reality of post 2019 HK is a bit too difficult to deal with effectively. This is the spiral downwards CX will not be able to avoid. ICAO and IATA have pretty strict rules regarding passenger lists. So, again...was he on the flight?

Can’t see that CX would ever give that information to journalists, as you say, ICAO and IATA are pretty strict.

of course, almost all governments insist on being sent the passenger list prior to departure, and that can’t be refused. And HK will by now have the same watch list of ‘undesirables’ as PRC. Same would have happened if he had flown KE - it isn’t that they have the right to refuse to share the name list with HK.

in my view, just a matter of when, not if, Swire are forced to sell out to a more ‘patriotic’ owner

[G Merch]

So an Uyghur man was abducted by the commies after being onboard one of the cathay flights? Now you know when it's time to leave for good.

"According to Amnesty, Abuduwaili was on a Cathay Pacific flight from Seoul to Hong Kong that was scheduled to land at 11 pm (1500 GMT) on May 10, according to Amnesty. Airline Cathay Pacific did not respond to questions on whether he was on board."

https://hongkongfp.com/2023/05/28/hong-kong-blasts-amnesty-over-missing-uyghur-man-allegation/

So Now this has turned out to be complete BS, have you asked yourself why you allow yourself to swallow whatever BS story the media throw at you?

[Oasis]

So Now this has turned out to be complete BS, have you asked yourself why you allow yourself to swallow whatever BS story the media throw at you?


To be fair, with the way things seem to be going, the story didn't seem far-fetched.

[Babyjet_dododo]

So Now this has turned out to be complete BS, have you asked yourself why you allow yourself to swallow whatever BS story the media throw at you?

Given that CCP has previously came into HK and Taiwan and kidnapped people back to the mainland, this story is not far off.

[Silent Treatment]

What Happened to Cathay Pacific? Recent Incident and Experience

[Fake News]

Cathay Pacific seriously refutes all slanderous accusations by the social media blogger Mr Sam Chui. It is without question and commonly known that Cathay Pacific's inflight service is unrivaled not just in aviation but throughout the global hospitality industry. Mr Sam Chui's comment's regarding reduced crew numbers amount to an attack on the whole of Cathay Pacific and seriously hurt the feelings of it's more than 21200 loyal employees. Cathay Pacific strongly advises the social media blogger Mr Sam Chui to change course, correct past mistakes and abide by international norms.

[Babyjet_dododo]

Cathay Pacific seriously refutes all slanderous accusations by the social media blogger Mr Sam Chui. It is without question and commonly known that Cathay Pacific's inflight service is unrivaled not just in aviation but throughout the global hospitality industry. Mr Sam Chui's comment's regarding reduced crew numbers amount to an attack on the whole of Cathay Pacific and seriously hurt the feelings of it's more than 21200 loyal employees. Cathay Pacific strongly advises the social media blogger Mr Sam Chui to change course, correct past mistakes and abide by international norms.

Isnt that what the HK government said to the Tiananmen Square massacre remembrance groups? Just joking, they say that to everyone that doesn’t tow the CCP narrative.

Seriously though, unrivalled service? Yes it’s unrivalled! No other airlines run skeleton crew and run out of pax meals in J class.