PDA

View Full Version : Checkmate: new Russian military a/c to be unveiled at MAKS


chopper2004
13th Jul 2021, 09:42
Checkmate : New Russian mil a/c to be revealed at MAKS 2021

Watch trailer now (http://checkmate.uacrussia.ru)

cheers

Less Hair
13th Jul 2021, 09:56
The Lightningski II?

Just This Once...
13th Jul 2021, 12:50
The video makes clear that several squadrons around the world are eagerly waiting for it, including this one:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1508x1204/screenshot_2021_07_13_at_13_47_10_c4017ea75923f66081b53ca4aa bdd28762a12b05.png

Ok... err what?

MPN11
13th Jul 2021, 18:09
Ah, the details! Funny how things like this creep into cyber-space, just like the marketing detail for interested Arab Nations.

Subtle? Stealthy? Not!

Ninthace
13th Jul 2021, 21:57
Final clip before end title, pilot on right, USA buying it too? Could not enlarge to be sure.

tartare
14th Jul 2021, 03:54
The UK and US might be waiting for it for altogether different reasons... :E
Bring it on.

jolihokistix
14th Jul 2021, 05:47
Did you click on the video? How about the language option, or did you leave it in Russian?

chopper2004
16th Jul 2021, 13:51
Ah, the details! Funny how things like this creep into cyber-space, just like the marketing detail for interested Arab Nations.

Subtle? Stealthy? Not!

Wondering if it is this (as social media is all over the place around )


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/b08524ad_af1c_4992_9bec_13fba0b4dc87_b05c9a869660717417cd38b 80c270daad576e1ef.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/8d2fb9f0_9abe_4678_ad10_b5d92f2daf03_c8d7794305300662b95af2f 75205898db81ffbc2.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/c003a1b2_6e8d_4734_927f_02a4d7161056_d19393db85b8a0cce800ef1 7c0a0e4943644f14a.jpeg

Vzlet
16th Jul 2021, 14:09
Possible ASCC names include "Flannel", "Flexbag", and "Flagwrap".

Just This Once...
16th Jul 2021, 15:00
Hope the same seamstress doesn't do parachutes...

NutLoose
17th Jul 2021, 10:57
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/russia-calls-checkmate-with-new-lightweight-fighter-design/144631.article

same picture so yes appears to be it.

I wonder if BAe are checking for a leak ;)


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x264/image_fa1406254cb067b9f2f520c23c1332dfc117a93b.jpeg


looks very much like the Tempest.

MPN11
17th Jul 2021, 11:08
Longer wheelbase = more internal weapons stowage, though.

Argonautical
17th Jul 2021, 21:50
Possible ASCC names include "Flannel", "Flexbag", and "Flagwrap".
Facemask would be topical.

NutLoose
17th Jul 2021, 22:24
They could name it flabby after their leader, or flaccid.

tartare
18th Jul 2021, 06:23
YF-23ski-vich...

ORAC
18th Jul 2021, 07:04
https://twitter.com/I30mki/status/1416405497616367620?s=20

chopper2004
19th Jul 2021, 14:44
Well teaser trailer in advance of tomorrow roll out reminds me of Top Gun Maverick trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnm0stFtnkw

cheers

Commando Cody
19th Jul 2021, 18:27
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1819x911/chkmtefighter_c1ef996aab96b925d436d6ae867cc895a20558bc.jpg

etudiant
20th Jul 2021, 20:41
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1819x911/chkmtefighter_c1ef996aab96b925d436d6ae867cc895a20558bc.jpg
Better looking variant of the F-32, sans VTOL silliness.

SASless
21st Jul 2021, 12:14
Meanwhile, the Russians quietly have updated 80% of their nuclear arsena and are deploying Hypersonic Weapons for both offense and defense, l while the West has done......what?

Focus upon pronouns and diversity amongst the ranks at the direct cost to Operational Training and development of more effective fighting capability.....now what could possibly go wrong with that kind of thinking

Come a Peer Conflict between adversaries like the Chinese or Russians.....or both.....how will that turnout?

From a recent TV series....a bit of dialogue instructed the West plays Chess where the goal is to kill the opposing King.....but the Chinese play GO where the goal is to build the largest empire...not kill the King.

Considering the actions of China and Russia.....was there some truth in that bit of dialogue?

One thing for sure....the net effect of the improvement in the military might of Russia and China does pose a threat to the current Status Quo.

Less Hair
21st Jul 2021, 12:49
Doesn't look overly stealthy to me, more like a V-tail F-16?

hunterboy
21st Jul 2021, 20:28
I do get the impression that the Chinese in particular play the long game, whereas us in the West are preconditioned to think in 4- 5 year cycles? Maybe that is because we are used to all changing after every election? Therefore , nothing actually seems to get done.

Gordon Brown
21st Jul 2021, 20:36
Well if it ever gets into production I know what the NATO reporting name should be:


The Fugly

ORAC
22nd Jul 2021, 05:06
https://twitter.com/louischeung_hk/status/1416935190354489344?s=20

ORAC
27th Jul 2021, 19:29
https://www.defensenews.com/industry/techwatch/2021/07/27/see-russias-new-checkmate-fighter-jet-unveiled-at-defense-expo/

See Russia’s new Checkmate fighter jet unveiled at defense expo

https://breakingdefense.sites.breakingmedia.com/2021/07/russias-new-su-75-checkmate-promises-a-lot-can-it-deliver/

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1536x692/image_e432618b120a709176a1b9108efb5c762146a6d5.png

Beamr
24th Mar 2022, 07:10
Interestingly TASS published an article that the designers of the Checkmate "corrected the shortcomings of F-117". I'd say thats a bit... lame. They are really stating that Checkmate and F-117 are aircrafts of similar level.
I thought it was supposed to overcome F22 and F35.

Here's a translation of the article.
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/14166303
MOSCOW, TASS, MAR 24, 07:01 Updated 07:07
Checkmate will take into account the shortcomings of the American F-117A Nighthawk fighter
According to the text of the patent, the shortcomings of the American stealth fighter are poor takeoff and landing characteristics, as well as insufficient stability and controllability of the aircraft.

The developers of the new Russian single-engine fighter Checkmate, when creating it, took into account and corrected the shortcomings of the American stealth fighter Lockheed F-117A Nighthawk. This is stated in the text of the patent (available to TASS) for a light tactical aircraft (LTA), published by the Federal Service for Intellectual Property.
The document compares the domestic LTS with the American Lockheed F-117A Nighthawk aircraft, which has low radar visibility. "However, the disadvantage of this aircraft is poor takeoff and landing characteristics, as well as insufficient stability and controllability of the aircraft," the text of the patent says.
It emphasizes that the task of the Checkmate LTS developers was to eliminate the shortcomings of other well-known aircraft of a similar level. "Thus, the technical result, to which the claimed invention is directed, is to increase the stability and controllability of the aircraft without deteriorating the characteristics of radar visibility," the document says.

About aircraft
The F-117 is an American single-seat subsonic tactical stealth strike aircraft manufactured by Lockheed Martin. It was intended for covert penetration through the enemy's air defense system and attacks on strategically important ground targets. The first flight was made on June 18, 1981. 64 units produced, the last serial copy was delivered to the US Air Force in 1990. The aircraft participated in five armed conflicts. In 2008, aircraft of this type were completely withdrawn from service, both for financial reasons and due to the adoption of the F-22 Raptor.
The reduction in visibility for the F-117 was mainly achieved due to the specific angular shape of the hull, built according to the concept of "reflector planes", composite and radar-absorbing materials and a special coating were also used.

LTS Checkmate developed by the Sukhoi company (part of the United Aviation Corporation of the state corporation Rostec) was first presented at the MAKS-2021 air show. The foreign presentation of the fighter took place at the Dubai Airshow 2021 in the UAE. The first flight of the Checkmate is scheduled for 2023, and the start of series production is scheduled for 2025.

Checkmate includes all the most advanced developments, including an open architecture for building in the interests of the customer and unique artificial intelligence technologies. The aircraft is made using stealth technologies, equipped with an intra-fuselage compartment for air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. The payload weight exceeds seven tons. The fighter will be able to simultaneously hit up to six targets. The speed of a single-engine aircraft will be Mach 1.8, and the combat radius will be 3,000 km.

pasta
24th Mar 2022, 15:53
Yeah - obviously the F-117 wasn't in the public domain in 1981, but if it had been I don't think Lockheed would have impressed anyone by claiming it corrected the shortcomings of the de Havilland Mosquito.

The Helpful Stacker
24th Mar 2022, 16:32
Yeah - obviously the F-117 wasn't in the public domain in 1981, but if it had been I don't think Lockheed would have impressed anyone by claiming it corrected the shortcomings of the de Havilland Mosquito.

​​​​​​I wonder what the RCS of a Mossie is????

KiloB
24th Mar 2022, 17:24
The size of two spinning props I would think. The T11 on the other hand I remember as being very sneaky when head-on.

chopper2004
18th May 2022, 21:48
Production of the Checkmate will commence in 2027...

https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/russia-to-launch-su-75-checkmate-production-in-2027-rostec-says/148705.article

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x720/image_2022_05_18_172142_6921ecd099dddd2fde3d6dedb53369ac8697 602e.jpg


cheers

SpazSinbad
19th May 2022, 03:46
The size of two spinning props I would think. The T11 on the other hand I remember as being very sneaky when head-on.
Haha. If you refer to the dual seat Vampire then from my experience hearing ATC/talking to ATC GCA controllers complain it was bloody near impossible to see it in the rain. TIN wings & laminate balsa wooden fuselage - ah the BeeKnees radar return at certain angles. :} http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7441332 OR 93762_1345888030.jpg (1200×819) (jetphotos.com) (https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/3/93762_1345888030.jpg)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x453/vampunderdestruction_13f36c45238542f79363cca8b96d65ea483cc9d b.jpg

ORAC
19th May 2022, 07:03
The Buccaneer was very difficult to see on radar. Mind you, that was because it was normally below 50-100ft.

More than one way to skin a cat….

Mogwi
19th May 2022, 07:16
G-KZ: Good afternoon Bournemouth, G-KZ, a Tiger Moth holding 4 miles north at 1500ft for a display slot of minute 50.
Bounrnemouth radar: Roger G-KZ, no contact on radar.
G-KZ: That’s because I’m made of wood!

Buster Hyman
19th May 2022, 08:03
Well if it ever gets into production I know what the NATO reporting name should be:


The Fugly
Considering their post Ukraine finances, I'd call it the Cheque Bounce!

MPN11
19th May 2022, 10:32
Haha. If you refer to the dual seat Vampire then from my experience hearing ATC/talking to ATC GCA controllers complain it was bloody near impossible to see it in the rain. TIN wings & laminate balsa wooden fuselage - ah the BeeKnees radar return at certain angles. :} Ah, the Vampitre T11 ... as flown by Marshall's pilots to train we GCA students, using the 2 MPN11 trucks at Sleap. I don't recall them being difficult to see, but perhaps part of our training was using the kit to its best advantage? I do remember on Talkdown giving one a 'radar advisory' on a large flock of birds about to cross the glide path ahead of him, so discrimination must have been fairly good.

SpazSinbad
19th May 2022, 10:56
Ah, the Vampitre T11 ... as flown by Marshall's pilots to train we GCA students, using the 2 MPN11 trucks at Sleap. I don't recall them being difficult to see, but perhaps part of our training was using the kit to its best advantage? I do remember on Talkdown giving one a 'radar advisory' on a large flock of birds about to cross the glide path ahead of him, so discrimination must have been fairly good.
How was it in the rain in jolly old EngerLand? I would have to do some research to find the single GCA type unit at Nowra, which had to be towed around to the duty runway - so... if the wind/runway changed one had to wait and wait and wait so we jettsetters had a low level visual approach to NAS Nowra to befuddle the pundits. Often us junior Vamp Pilots had to wait whilst the new A4Gers used the GCA in foul weather <sigh> therefore before we ran out of fuel a low visual approach was de rigeur.

MPN11
19th May 2022, 14:20
There were 'polarisers' or 'rain plates' that abated the effect of rain, albeit not completely. I operated the MPN11 in wet foggy Lincolnshire for a year or so without giving up!

However, we digress. Back to invisible Russian aircraft *cough*

SpazSinbad
21st May 2022, 09:07
Ha. At last I'm getting A GIST of who people were back in the day from this thread: The AN/FPN-36 Quad Radar - PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/610601-fpn-36-quad-radar.html)

This was the GCA unit at NAS Nowra that I was referring to earlier: GCA (Quadradar) FPN-36. 3 page PDF attached from March 2022 SLIPSTREAM of the RAN FAAAA:

https://issuu.com/slipstream2/docs/slipstream_mar_2022

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1216x852/spn_35quadradarmelbourneafter1969refit_d88740aed73c29efd5f9c ac4be8fbd24e654c621.jpg