Police Matters - do they affect a flying career?

[Desert Strip Basher]

What's the general consensus on picking up a motoring speeding ticket - do you think it would affect your employment prospects?

[dbriglee]

Seriously???? Slightly strange question.....

But of course it won't. If you're talkiing about the usual SP30 speeding 3 points and 60 slaps of the wallet then dont worry about it.

Even if youve got lots of points.


If youve been convicted through court for the offence and charged, to receive a suspended sentance/prison sentance then i suppose yes, it would come up on the CRB check, and you would declare it for the job.

It might work in your favour!!??
''So then, Maverick, tell me what you learned and what you would change in the future from this experience''

[zondaracer]

I assume you are talking about the UK/Europe. I think you should be alright. But in the US, it could affect a prospective employee, especially if it was recent and if there are more than one. But things on either side of the pond are quite different.

[McNulty]

i have a conviction from many years ago when i was young and dumb for careless driving....got a fine, didnt get put off the road but anyway its on my record. get paid to fly a 737 now.

[hollingworthp]

Well if you are asked about it on an application form or during an interview then honesty would be ideal - however, I only ever recall seeing questions that specifically excluded speeding.

That said, there may be a requirement to know if you have a large number of points as I think there is an automatic ban once you have 9 points? (I am quite pleased I don't know the details of this having only ever had 3 points and that was 10 years ago). Obviously if you are no longer able to drive this could impact on your reporting time to the airport (1 hour seems to be a common time threshold - so if you live somewhere not well served by public transport then this could become an issue?)

[mad_jock]

Only issue I have heard of is if you have 9 points or more and thats because the companys hire car insurance won't cover you.

Generally all they ask you is if you have a valid driving license.

With the state of the camera system and tthe policy of using it to generate revenue alot of pilots will have points.

I might add I have a clean license but thats more by luck than anything.

[4015]

As some of the other posts have mentioned, if it's just a £60 3 pointer then you genuinely have no problems.

If you're up on a more serious charge (intentionally no insurance, DUI) or anything that could be considered to show a serious lack of judgement or lack of personal morals, then you'll have a problem.

But then, if you're doing the latter, you really deserve to be shown the door anyway.

[XXPLOD]

I had two speeding offences when I got through the police recruitment process!

[Capt.unregistered]

A few years back the Airforce was going to look favourably on someone with a few points- indicates slighty risky behaviour (good for military flying) although they had to drop the notion as it wasn't PC.:\

I know guys with drink driving convictions who still fly.

[enr33]

Hi all,
was just wandering to the degree in which a police caution will impact on a carrer in aviation.

i have just started having a few lessons towards my ppl and have decieded that flyings the things for me, however last week i happened to get inolved in an incident trying to protect my cousin and now face either accepting a police caution for affray or taking the matter to court.

just wanted to know if it will effect any future job prospects, so i can either accept the caution or take the matter to court. if anyone can please provide any info on this matter it will be much apprciated. oh and i need to know by wednesday if possible.


many thanks in advance :)

[spannatime]

Well to accept a caution you are accepting that you committed the offence, so I assume if they have offered you a caution there is sufficient evidence for a conviction at court.
A caution should not prevent you obtaining security clearance however if you were convicted at court you would fail the records check.

Finally, I would be asking your solicitor, not those on here to advise you on this. Affray is quite a serious offence. Defending someone (i.e. your cousin) from violence is legal. Affray relates to 'unlawful violence'.

[Flying Lawyer]

to accept a caution you are accepting that you committed the offence Correct.
I assume if they have offered you a caution there is sufficient evidence for a conviction at court. Not necessarily.
Finally, I would be asking your solicitor, not those on here to advise you on this. Absolutely right.
It would be unwise to agree to a caution without consulting a solicitor who specialises in criminal law.

[enr33]

The matter has been delayed so that more info can be gathered by police. The police are also holding back evidence such as cctv from my solicitors so they are unable to provide me with advice, until I decide to accept or not.
The caution is offered as a statement that was made was said to admit to the offence, although i did no such thing. all seems like a bit of a joke really. I'm going to have to wait and see what's going on :hmm:.



Honestly I feel as though I've been wronged however accepting a caution might simplify matters, unless it has a real impact on any major job prospects in aviation. :ouch:



thanks for the feedback, much appreciated

[alphaadrian]

As a previous poster has mentioned...with all the speed cameras and mobile speed guns around these days I think a lot of pilots and members of the public will have speeding/parking offences! I have 3 points (didnt know anything about it till the letter landed on my doorstep!) and has never been an issue. Even my old law abiding 63 year old sister got done for not wearing a seatbelt lol! I wouldnt worry about it!

[Waldo]

The "rehabiltiation of offenders act 1974" Has clear guidlines regarding convictions for all manner of crimes.
Most offences do not have to be mentioned after a few years(although they my remain on record). For example you do not have to answer a question about a prison (2.5 years) sentence after 10 years. Most offences are "spent" after a shorter period.

[Bealzebub]

Yes, except that some other countries (for which you may require visas) are not governed by, or subject to the act. You are required to answer questions that may (and usually do) require a full lifetime disclosure of any convictions, arrests and even pardons.

Many employers willl require you to be able to travel worldwide without undue restriction.