Jet Airways Trainee First Officer

[cyrilroy21]

We are India’s largest airline operating flights to 43 destinations in India and 24 destinations internationally.

The rapid expansion of our route network has earned us several awards. We also pride ourselves in having the youngest fleet of aircraft in India consisting of the modern Boeing 777-300ER, Airbus 330-200, Boeing 737 NG and the ATR 72-500.

Trainee First officer

Age - Between 18 and 35 years
Height - 162.5 cms
Weight - In proportion to height
Educational qualifications - Valid and current Indian DGCA CPL, FRTO, IR/LR, RTR (A) and Class I medical

Apply through their website

Careers (http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/Careers/Careers.aspx)

Good Luck people to all those CPL holders who have been patiently waiting for such an opporntunity :ok:
:D

[flight517]

when i fill up the complete form and click on submit, it shows an error "failed to add" is it just happening with me or did it happen with anyone else too......pls reply

[Speedbird1014]

they are asking for current IR, mine is expiring on 1 feb 2011, can anyone please advice if they want it current for the whole time till u start your type rating (it wouldnt make sense otherwise), and please tell me how can i keep it current.

[koolchaos3188]

@flight517 - even im getting the same error.
tried 2 submit the application a thousand times :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

[niksmathew24]

Try using another web browser. Chrome worked for me. Also just give the site some time to load. Dont try refreshing it again and again.
Hope this helps.:ok:

[koolchaos3188]

@niksmathew24 - tried it in firefox, internet explorer, chrome, safari
didn't work for me. and i waited for 10-15 mins for the page to load :(
anyways thanks for suggestion. :)

[koolchaos3188]

@Speedbird1014 - they are only asking for single IR not multi.
its not a big deal. contact a flight school near you :ok:

[hipratik2005]

even im getting the same error.
tried 2 submit the application

[dragstar]

@koolchaos3188 @flight517

even I tried firefox, chrome and IE but get the same error - Failed to Add
have no idea what to do.

Let me know if anyone has luck submitting the application.

[pree56]

hey .. those of you having problems wit submitting application to jet airawys..

it could be because your IR is not current anymore.

the jet airways website has a special script which can automatically find out if your IR is current or not, based on your records when u give your name and CPL no.

try renewing your IR and submit your application again and check again.

hope this helps.

[DJ Flyboy]

the problem could also be coz of leaving multi hours blank..put '00' values..worked for me on chrome..

[dragstar]

the problem could also be coz of leaving multi hours blank..put '00' values..worked for me on chrome..

@DJ Flyboy- is your IR current?

anyone with lapsed IR able to successfully submit the online application?

[DJ Flyboy]

my ir is current

[Krits]

Make sure your Multi time is 00 Hrs and 00 Mins.. I was doing just 00 Hours first.. gave me errors... then changed the minutes to 00 as well.. No problem

My Multi IR elapses on 5th may

EDIT: Did it in Chrome.

[smoothbore]

How can I get a cessna rating on my indian license? I did my flying in the US, got my Multi Ir on seneca, which is no longer current. I have 150 hrs on cessna 172.

[Viraaj Shah]

I doubt IR is the problem. It can jam up with so many people applying at the same time. Try a little later, or keep applying. It might get accepted. That's my take. The instrument rating thing is another possible cause.

[CaptGodfather]

They are not yet done with their recruitment which started in Aug 10 and they are already thinking about hiring more trainees. :sad::sad:

[cyrilroy21]

Looks like they couldnt find enough pilots from the Aug 10'
recruitment session :E

[Super310]

with the amount of people going for their 737 simulators..i dont think any operator with a fleet of 737's is going to have a problem..cant say about the ATR's..but that is much later...EXAM first!!:8

p.s , cyril..how was ure RT exam!?!? ;)

[Super310]

difference b/w IR and Instrument rating being ?!?!? just wondering!! :P

[cyrilroy21]

@Super310

I passed both Part 1 and Part 2 :)

Applied for the lifetime validity just waiting to receive the license...

P.S :
Check your private message ( PM )

[3443 nautical miles]

my height is 160cm like many other indian women pilots , in fact I know many Jet pilots who are way shorter than me ....
I just cant understand the purpose behind keeping height as 162.5cm....
I am thinking of writing to HR department abt it , I am sure that there must be many like me , pls PM me if u have similar problem.

[yash]

i have RTR (P) plus my IR is not even valid....in short i'm screwed

any one got any suggestions on what can be done ??

[piper_cherokee]

Those having problem submitting it try submitting with a new email id. Probably they are not accepting applications with email ids already on their database.Worked for my 3 friends this way.

[Aviator4u]

@piper cherokee

thanx a lot...worked fr me too...really appreciate ua help...

[3443 nautical miles]

@piper_cherokee

did u get any confirmation by email....
I got the ref no. but i used my old id

[fly.low]

hey guys.....
wht should i write in date of issue of ir...."date of test or date of issue"

my date of issue is 20-12-2010
n date of test is 08-july, 2010

n wht will b my validity date?

[upilotg]

IF you are getting this error.Just change your Email ID !!! :)

[hipratik2005]

Tried Everything
Diff Browsers
Diff Email Id
Current Ir
Still Not Getting Through

[fly.low]

i tried using new e-mail id.....it shows some error, n if i do it again then it shows failed to add.....

i m using macbook, should i try through windows?

[flyflyfly2me]

r the jetairways ppl gonna directly take interviews or writtens first.........

[fly.low]

i did it, just make sure, there are no dot, comas, semi colons or any such symbols n fill it using new id.....it will b accepted

[fly.low]

did u guys get any confirmation e-mail?

[cats200]

Guys any idea when the written xams are gona be?? the third batch has just begun or will begin their training soon may be after they finish?!?!

[mike_sierra]

same issue
'error in processing your request'...help out!!
tried it in all possible browsers..

[JAY SHAH]

Tried like 50 times since morning ..tried everything mentioned here... not happening.

[37thousandfeet]

even i tried a lot of times. it says failed to add.

[sky_thebeginning]

IR lapse cannot be a problem as i applied with my lapsed ir and it was accepted at very first try...
But Jamming could be a possibility so keep trying...it should get through..

Anyone with any info about the recruitement procedure this tym,plz share it...
All d best !!!

[cyrilroy21]

Hmmm......

Couple of more solutions

In addition to the changing of email address

1. Make sure everything is valid
( CPL , MEdical , FRTOL , RTR , Passport etc
2. Make sure you tick all the boxes for both English and Hindi

3. Make sure that you weight is below 30 or 25 on the BMI scale
Calculate Your BMI - Metric BMI Calculator (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmi-m.htm)

Please report back if successful

[dragstar]

lapsed IR is not a problem.

My application went through with lapsed IR but had to use a use a lot diff. email id's

The jet servers are jammed, clogged. There are about 2 applications every minute.

[JAY SHAH]

hey for those of you whose applications went through, did u get any confirmation email or something?

[Terror.Bird]

Pree56 wrote n i quote ""jet airways website has a special script which can automatically find out if your IR is current or not, based on your records when u give your name and CPL no."":D

Nothing can be more funny than this. bloody DGCA doesn't know how many ppl have DGCA lic. let alone there name n lic. no. n exactly how many are unemployed (4500 as being speculated, is calculated by media n UPA) n me saying on the basis of our Aviation ministers reply in parliament on more than 2 occasions. N Jet has made a "special script" to filter on the basis of name n lic. n its validity. I mean come on kuch bhi keh do rumour site hi tau hai.. haan.. :ugh:

[cyrilroy21]

@Terror.Bird

The application asks for the date of issue and
date of expiry of all the licenses

Thats how Jet knows the date of expiry....:hmm:

[fly.low]

even i didnt get any confirmation e-mail.......

[Terror.Bird]

but Pree56 is saying on the basis of name n lic. #... as if they have sourced the data directly from DGCA n made a software or special script as he/she mentioned.
I knw its asking for issue date n lapse date... so what is so special in that..:hmm:

[blackhawk777]

Hey..... Hey.... Hey......

Before u think about Pree56's post any further... Just go through the following by Pree56...

JET airways out with vacancies !
Hey everyone !

great news !

Jet is out again with another eyewash recruitment!

but the good news this time is that at least 10% of selections will be on merit

all the best to everyone !

P.S heard that this time the going rate for 737 is 40lac and ATR25 lac..


Guys.... I know its hard time.... But don't just believe anything.....

Excuse my language but these DUMB****S really write anything....

Even i have not been able to submit my details... Am sure it will happen... May be a busy server.... Sooner or later we'll all get through...

Easy guys.... Best of Luck !!

[harsh786techy]

Does any one have an idea of when the exam going to be conducted...
Feb first week or second week,....any idea guys.?

[harsh786techy]

And yes i forgot to mention that in the eligibiity criteria there is mentioned Ir/LR...Whats LR...does that mean lapsed IR???

[VT-NOL]

@Terror.Bird
you can check out the name and lic.no issued by dgca on this linkSelf Query (http://fclsdgca.nic.in/dtlquery.aspx) :ok:

[cyrilroy21]

To all those applicants who are unable to submit the applications online....

If you happen to live in Mumbai or anywhere near mumbai...

Consider going down to Jet Airways HQ or wherever their HR office is and submit a Cover Letter and Resume and explain to them the reason as to why you are doing so...

Make sure you mention in the Resume all the details asked on the online application...

Oh Yes... Please go in Formals

And please report back here if successfull or not

Good Luck :ok:

P.S : For those of you not living anywhere near mumbai ask one of your friends to do it for you or go to Mumbai and do it yourself .
You never know if it may turn out succesful

[DJ Flyboy]

To all those applicants who are unable to submit the applications online....

If you happen to live in Mumbai or anywhere near mumbai...

Consider going down to Jet Airways HQ or wherever their HR office is and submit a Cover Letter and Resume and explain to them the reason as to why you are doing so...

Make sure you mention in the Resume all the details asked on the online application...

Oh Yes... Please go in Formals

And please report back here if successfull or not

Good Luck http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


or you could just email them on [email protected]

Also any idea when the exams are happening..

[Super310]

Guys, has anyone checked if the exam going to be on the same pattern as the last time?!?

[JAY SHAH]

can someone please give me the number for jet with the extension? I think the number is 40191000 ..not sure .. thanks

[cvchetan]

on changing the mail ID i get "error processing request"
If i submit again with the same ID i get "FAILED TO ADD"

this for sure has something to do with email ID.

But in any case i m not getting a reference number...

[mike_sierra]

To all those who are having a problem/getting error:

1. Make sure that you height/weight is in proportion on the BMI scale
2. Fill up all mandatory fields
3. MOST IMPORTANT
DO NO USE . , / - ANY WHERE IN YOUR FORM := ..USE SPACES IF REQD

I've tried innumerous times since the last 3 days..the 3rd option worked out finally !!

Good luck!

[cvchetan]

Still doesn't work...

[cvchetan]

Finally successful..

Steps:

1. Use a email id that u have never before entered on the online application.
2. Remove all special characters like ./- and replace with spaces (most imp in the class 1 number i.e is ur file num (if it is 1-xxxx/xxxx-L-2 make it 1 xxxx xxxx L 2)

submit.. ull get confirmation number..

cheers

[actor]

it works with an email address which jet does not have from previous times.

Good Luck

[JAY SHAH]

Still no success... tried everything ..

[hawaijahaj]

anyone has an idea for IR renewal on multi ?

[thearsenal]

hey you guys just to let you know i applied on my old email id that i had applied to with jet before and it did work in the first shot. so maybe something else could be wrong and not just the email id.

[Viraaj Shah]

@ Jay Shah

Try submitting the application from another computer. Should work. Expired IR is definitely not the issue and nor is a different email id. A little patience, should get accepted. Good luck :ok:

[JAY SHAH]

@ viraaj shah

Tried from 3 computers, 7-8 email ids, everything, dint work . I guess patience is the only thing remaining now. Really appreciate your reply. Thanks.

[Rishabh Panchhi]

Hi all,

I wanted to check if I could apply with CPL number awaited. I have all the requirements met.

Is there any way out?

[harsh786techy]

@ Rishabh Panchhi
i dont think you can apply with an awaiting CPL application...What you can surely do is go to DGCA and tell them to atleast give those details to you.. But it can only happen when your application is processed and the only thing remaining is posting your license to you...so go and sit on there head.. Get your license no and other details..I am sure they will do it..

[flyflyfly2me]

can anybody please tell me abt CRJ type rating......and places to do it frm???

[hawaijahaj]

anybody knows what LR mean in IR/LR ??

[cyrilroy21]

Sending them an email wont help because

if you mention trainee first officer anywhere in the email then they will just send you an automated reply asking you to apply online

P.S : tried and tested twice . both times same email as a reply

[suchita]

well guys, i too ws trying to submit d application fr last 2 days, tried actualy 100 times, tried evrythng suggested by u ppl, no mistakes in filling up, no special characters, tried wid different email ids.. nothng worked, al i got is d msg "failed to add" n it became too much wen it started showing d msg "u r already registered" n i dine get any reference no. :ugh:
FINALLY D THING WORKED FR ME WAS CHANGING THE BROWSER FRM MOZZILA TO GOOGLE CHROME.. reason cud b anythng else.. bt no harm in trying.. so keep trying...

[THEAV8R]

Thanx a lot Chetan...you've been a big help mate...appreciate every bit of it!! Cheers :ok:

[JAY SHAH]

@suchita
After getting that msg u have already registered , did u use the same email id on the different browser?

[THE MIR]

me n my friend had been trying to snd it for last 2dayz using gmail but it waznt workin :ugh:....finally we put in our YAHOO ID n it did go thru:D!!

TRY OUT....might work for u>>>>> CHEERS:ok:

[flaskback]

LR means Land Rating. :ugh:

[vmendes]

Does anyone know if a current IR is required? my application went through with a lapsed IR:confused:

[unicorn87]

My IR expired in dec 2008. The form doesnt have an option for dates before 2010. How does one get thru den wid an exprd rating? Also do they require currency on multi or single is fine too?

[cyrilroy21]

IR on single is fine :ok:

P.S : They dont require a multi endorsement

[unicorn87]

thanx... :)

[nishantgupta2009]

is anyone has any idea weather they will call people with lapsed IR

[Pulkdahulk]

Shikes!!!

What is wrong with every body on this forum, this is the problem, that is the problem, the IR is lapsed, that multi engine hours has to be 00 hrs and 00 mins, email ID issues, DGCA has records of this or that

Seriously??????:mad:

Yes there is a script that every company uses for its HR, the whole system may be jammed because of send-blink-click responses.

Too many people sending, thats it, again
Too many people sending, thats it....try again sometime when at night or early morning.

Are you really all pilots that think logically or make random out of the world guesses. If ever given a problem, think through the problem.

If your IR is lapsed - you won't be eligible for the Type NOC. You can enter your Lapsed IR and still the application will GO.

Except: That script will filter that IR lapsed and will not show to the HR in the final list of all applicants.

So if you fill it out, it will NOT show in the final list of all applicants when Jet will send emails to people for Interviews. But if you do send a lapsed IR, fine, just update the HR with that email letting them you know your Reference Number with the renewed one.

[gAMbl3]

any idea whn da xms gonna be???

[VT-IDK]

how bout the RTR(A) mentioned...does that mean the ones with RTR(C) or (P) wnt b entertained..

[cyrilroy21]

I dont think RTR (A), RTR ( C ) or RTR ( P )
should be a problem as long as you hold a valid RTR and and FRTOL
:ok:

[VT-IDK]

but its given RTR(A) particularly...or is it like we assume what suits us the best...the way i think IR need not be current

[cyrilroy21]

Well think of it this way

The application form was probably designed by their Human Resources Department.

They are aware of that an RTR license exists but may not be aware of the different categories like RTR(C) or RTR (P) or RTR (A)

I believe the privileges remain the same for all the three anyway...

[Aviator4u]

@cyrilroy21
how abt current IR?

[cyrilroy21]

Not sure about the current IR....:suspect:

However I guess you should try your luck and apply.

In the meantime you could go an renew your IR.

or

Your could renew your IR and then hope that by the time the dgca issues the renewal and the application window is still open since they havent mentioned a closing date.

You could also call Jet Airways HR and ask when the application window will close...

[Rajat Bamba]

Lapsed IR should not be a problem.
my friends IR is lapsed and he had no issues summiting the form...

[koolchaos3188]

any clue when is the exam?

[VT-IDK]

the problem with submitting is d form is over now buddy...by lapsed IR we are speculating if the lapsed IR ppl will get the call...

[gupfup]

Hey guys, I have submitted my documents to DGCA in last month for issue of my license. I'm still awaiting the license, its been a month now and my file hasn't been opened yet (went to the licensing section in DGCA to check up). I saw the online application form too on the Jet website and noticed that you need to put in the details of your Indian CPL, IR, RTR etc. Is there anyway I could still apply because I don't want to miss out on this oppurtunity!

[fly.low]

dude, i got my cpl issue in december end...it took 2.5months to get issue......

u can go today to DGCA, its open house today.........

tell dem about the job n talk to some clerk dere(clerks r very useful), he may help u to find ur file in their almirah n give that file to DG to issue ur license......

[dragstar]

Dear Candidate,

This is with reference to your application for the post of Trainee First Officer.

Due to some error incurred in the system, your application is not accepted previously through web form.

Request you to please reapply now for valid reference number.

Please ignore this mail if you have already received the reference number.

Regards,
HR Team
Flight Operations.

I applied again and the application went through smoothly. Btw the reference no. series right now is 70***. guess there are more then 4 thousand applicants.

[gAMbl3]

i applid on da 7th nd got 65***

[cyrilroy21]

I hope everyone has been able to apply by now :)

Those who havent should try again as they seemed to have fixed the error by now


Now anybody want to begin to speculate on the recruitment process
especially the following

1. Written Test
2. Group Discussion , Role playing etc
3. Interview
4. Sim test
5. Medical

If you have any info please do share it here especially those who had attended the previous assessment in August 2010.

I know that competition is really high and some people may not want to share information that they might have .
But please help out your fellow pilots and some day somebody else might do the same for you

Also more information on the following would also be welcome

Terms and Conditions

1. Cost of type rating ? :eek:
2. How long is the Bond if any ?
3. Salary paid during training and after being released on line :E
( take home pay before tax )?
4. Staff travel benefits :) ?
5. Gratuity Pay , End of service , Loss of License etc :)


All the best
:ok:

[SuperflyTNT]

I think we should worry about T&C much later, being a trainee pilot in India with the current situation we really cannot demand much I fell, though it is unfair. Let's all try getting through the hurdle of getting through the written. Any in-sight on the exam dates and recruitment process would be much appreciated by all. Thank you

[gAMbl3]

cost = 15 lac.....nd no bond

found out frm a frnd who got in augst batch

[aadityaslg]

If there is anyone who has appeared for the previous written tests, please post some info..

Thanks..

[alpha.mike]

HEY GUYS, the august assessment is still going on as i am left with my IPT which is scheduled next week, so recruitments are going on for so long from last exam.

Total 4 batches have been made and for 5th IPT and medicals are left.
I guess total of 90+ have been selected and last batch will also have 20+ odd pilots.
That means about 120 will be selected finally from last recruitment. A total of 2500 pilots appeared in written.

About new recruitment i guess written will happen in end feb or march.
:ok:

[Pradeep747]

Exams likely by Feb 27th..

info from

http://igrua.gov.in/News/Jet%20Airways%20Selection.pdf

[cyrilroy21]

Hmmm....

Why would IGRUA ask their candidates to apply online and send a copy of the application to a particular Jet Airways employee...


Any preference for IGRUA graduates ?

@alpha.mike
Good Luck for the IPT :ok:
care to share the assessment process so far including the what was asked for the written an interviews ?

[piper_cherokee]

The other thread http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far-east/423871-jet-airways-stage-2-assessment-gd.html has a lot of information about the process.

Written
It had 5 different tests each lasted around 45 minutes if i remember correctly. And there was a break of 15 minutes between tests. There were 3 Aptitude Test papers and 2 Aviation Knowledge based. The 1st aptitude test had IQ based questions.The 2nd had Multiple Answer questions which were based on imagining and folding 2-D figures to make 3-D figures and then choose the correct options.Many people messed up in this one as they thought only 1 option was correct.The 3rd paper was kind of testing English where statements were given and matching option was to be chosen.The 2 Aviation based tests had 40% of technical questions based on Aerodynmics and other basic technical subject and 40% Navigation and 20% comprised of Met,Regs and 1-2 questions on Jet engine.

Group Discussion
There were 5 rounds again in this one.You were divided in teams(4 guys each team) and then each round you had 2 teams i.e., 8 guys sitting together and doing the discussion. The topics were all based on Aviation except one round . They had a debate for sure everyday. I had it on Fly by wire. Then they had one non aviation round based on Survival in case of Air crash in Mountains/Desert/island, and you were given a list of items and you had to decide and conclude that what priority will you give to each item.Then one round was on Air crash. Where you were given and Air crash report and you had to discuss and decide what caused the Air Crash.

Interview
They asked questions mainly from Technical and Performance part and a few personal questions.The panel had 3 pilots and 1 HR manager.

IPT
They make you do it on a Fixed Base Simulator or FTD for B737-400. Generally you are asked to fly VOR approaches,holdings,published missed approach and radial intercepts . All on VOR itself. No NDBs . Very few were asked to fly ILS approach. The examiner makes you read the approach plate briefing and fly at the same time.Not to worry about how to fly a 737. Everything is on Auto Pilot. You just need to change the heading and course knobs and let your examiner know about what altitude you want and he may ask you sometimes the ROD you want. You need to have RMI knowledge so practice that. Practice on Chennai,Mumbai,Ahmedabad,Delhi for sure.

That's all i can recall right now. Will update if i remember anything later.

All the best guys!! :ok:

[cyrilroy21]

Big Thanks for the info Piper Cherokee :D

Could care to give a few sample questions asked during the interview ?

[piper_cherokee]

In interview they asked about Flaps. Leading edge flaps, Trailing Flaps, their functions, Swept back wings, their advantages,disadvantages, mach no., critical mach no. , Mach trim. In performance V1,V2, screen height , and in what condition it changes .ASDA,TORA,TODA etc.It lasted for just about 20-25 mins.

[VT-ASM]

If the assessments take that long...
I run the risk of lapsing my ratings.....:ugh::ugh:

[fly.low]

is it important to send a copy to shreekant bhagwat or sachin tandon?

[Pradeep747]

i would not send the email to anyone as the info is not for us...imagine 5000 applicant sending email to HR...he will go mad.so its better not to mess things up...so we will do wat is asked from us...

[fly.low]

i appreciate ur help


so u flying 4 jet now?

[piper_cherokee]

@fly.low

Hopefully soon i will be. :)

[Iver]

Pardon my random question (perhaps out of place), but what makes Jet Airways a more attractive place than Kingfisher, Spicejet, Indigo, etc. if (and a big IF) you had multiple opportunities? Just curious as to why someone would be specifically interested in Jet Airways vs. others (pros and cons).

Thanks for any insights.

[planeboy_777]

@cyrilroy21
IGRUA and NFTI candidates were told by JET airways to submit their Resume's through their E-mail.:cool:

[cyrilroy21]

Any idea if they are given special preference and if so why ?

[flyflyfly2me]

Which Books Shd We Study Fr Writtens?

[aditya104]

thanks a lot piper cherokee for sharing that info
all the best to you:ok:

[planeboy_777]

Refrence No 7120& any update on that number ................. BTW Exam Date is On 27th February :):):):):ok:
Best Of Luck

[kinko]

What books could one suggest for the Jet written??

also..it the pattern going to be the same(5 Papers)?!

[sid89]

i knw some guys who ave given the paper in aug

they told aerodynamics and engines were asked and there was a separate paper for these subject plus a little bit of basic performance

rest basic nav met some question on jepessen

my ref no is 65708

and about igrua they were about to have campus but they r now told to apply in gen like every one else

have no idea about rgnfti

is the paper still on 27 feb

[VT-ASB]

any idea about how to prepare for the 3 aptitude papers, any books on the subject that might prove of some help

[mike_sierra]

you guys think there will be qstns based on engines??

[cyrilroy21]

@ Mike Sierra

There will be a few questions based on engines so be prepared for the same.

For the rest of you...
You can practice Aptitude and IQ test online such as 'Lumosity' and
also there a numerous free applications on face book...

Here are a few that i use on face book

Brain Buddies
Ultimate IQ

For multi tasking test use this
Play Multitask, a free online game on Kongregate (http://www.kongregate.com/games/IcyLime/multitask)


For all the above tests dont be disheartened if you dont do good at first as it takes some time to get used to it and keep practicing :ok:

[fly.low]

guys,
even mdlr and jagson airlines have some trainee co-pilot jobs........
is it worth applying there?

[Capt_Nemo]

planeboy777:

u sure exam is on 27 feb 2011...whats ur source for this info??

[koolchaos3188]

@capt nemo-http://igrua.gov.in/News/Jet%20Airways%20Selection.pdf
check out this link...

[sid89]

about jet is igrua the thing goes like this that in nov 2010 jet was about to come for campus but then they decided not to come and invited all the igruans for gen vacancy like we r applying

so what ever information is given on the link was told to igrua by jet hr
and lets hope jet do not change the date of exam
because acco to the link it says application should be sent before 15 jan but the link is still on and forms r still going in

[prii]

@cyrilroy21
thanks.gr8 link!! :D

[planeboy_777]

The jet airways team visited IGRUA and NFTI few months ago. They were impressed by the quality of flying training they provide and of-course the ground training.......unlike in US Philippines and blah blah !!!:rolleyes: where they start their flying just 2-3 days after getting admission,having no idea about the A B C of Aviation:=........hence this might be the reason why Jet airways invited NFTI and IGRUA cadets :ok:...Indirectly the airline needs best pilots which only these two institutes can provide :)

[hawaijahaj]

Does anyone know where can we the cheapest of the Multi hours??? In India its a huge Rs 35,000 per hour. In US its roughly Rs 12,000 per hour but the flight ticket itself is Rs 50,000.
Need to get my multi IR renewed since I don't have single engine CPL.:(:(:(

[tinku]

Dear All,
I am a british citizen ATR type rated pilot from atr flight training centre. I have logged about 120 hrs. my wife is an indian. can anyone suggest me how i can work in india and what are the possibilities. thanks. :O

[koolchaos3188]

@planeboy 777-do you really think the standards are really good in those two schools and not in USA(the country which is baap of all the nations by all means) number in aviation, number 1 in almost everything...
and you think there standards are poorer than us...
think again man

[flyygirl]

@kool,not to defend 777 and not to by any means put down the standards of igrua and alike u and me have trained at us and cannot say anything about the best school of our nation.
but it is certain and logical that going in a ground training for a certain period is better than geting us tsa cleared and taking private ground school and flying for your solo side by!:=
yes usa does have unmatched standards but so can be the case of highly intelligent cadets and well trained and experienced staff of igrua:ok::ok:
:O

[sid89]

let us all come back to jet exam and leave the debate of who is the best aside

yes igrua is one of the best institutes for flying institute

but "one of the best" there r many other good school to and even better ,the world is huge,they r students which have come from usa uk and aus who have trained in international airports which in india is not at all possible so every place has its own advantage and its rude to say that a student for other place is not good in the aug batch of jet not all selected was from igrua or nfti, and u cant say the guys selected r not good, they r the best as per jetairways selection program

jet did no invited igrua student igrua management went to jetairways because of ai delaying campus selection and the student complained this to rahul gandhi who came there to visit his area.so first jet agreed but later were told to apply in gen and no special preference will be given to any flying school weather igrua of nfti or KLM FLIGHT ACADEMY


so let us come bace to jet exam any one knows the date i called jet office when the admit letters out they said to be accepted in jan end

[FlyByWire320]

Good one Planeboy 777:ok:

@koolchaos3188

Do you seriously think you FAA/phillipenes etc ppl are any match to IGRUA or RGNFTI cadets. you take 6 months to copmplete your entire CPL, whereas we spend the same time in ground school, studying from basics to ATPL level. and double this time in flight school. I have seen FAA/Phillipenes pilots who do not know the full form of AIP and CAR. FAA people might know how to fly an aircraft but IGRUA/NFTI cadets know how an aircraft flies. You seriously think you can learn all practical and theoretical aspects of flying in just 6 months in some cheap flying club in florida wearing a bermuda and a t-shirt. Think Again boy........and your high standards definitely show in your DGCA conversion results, takes most of u guys a year to clear 2 exams:ugh:, where as IGRUANS and NFTI cadets clear 6 exams and RT in max 2-3 sessions:ok:.

[FlyByWire320]

@ sid89

Exam dates are 27th feb as per jet airways HR.

[koolchaos3188]

@flybywire - dude let's not fight about who is better and who is not. I didn't say IGRUA has poor standards, I just mentioned its wrong to think only IGRUA has good standards and USA doesn't. And I never flew in florida, and behaved professionally during flight and ground sessions. And FYI I cleared all three papers in single attempt. and anyways your attitude shows your so naive to think USA doesn't have any standards...
If you think this country has such great standards why haven't we perfected a bloody ENGINE...
A company like Indian Oil(Ranks 125 in Fortune 500) has to get all its Engine's from rolls royce and GE, if we have such great standards why don't we build here and buy those and save on our forex.
Our country is still considered a third world nation. So there is a long way to go to match upto the standards of USA, Canada, UK, China, Singapore, Malaysia, Israel, Australia.
So instead of telling my that USA or any other country doesn't have any standards, we should be concerned on how to improve our nation.
We should be bothered for this nation and not condemn others.

[FlyByWire320]

@koolchaos3188

Son, I would like you to plz stick to the topic of aviation and leave Indian Oil to its fate.

Thank You.

[koolchaos3188]

@flybywire - Indian Oil is very much related to aviation industry sir.
We need fuel to fly and IOCL is market leader in India.

[cyrilroy21]

The above debate has been moved to this new thread

http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far-east/440065-debate-between-flying-schools-igrua-nfti-those-u-s-canada-australia-etc.html#post6188915

Lets keep this thread for what it was meant for :)

[VT-ASB]

well done setting the other thread

[condorbaaz]

1. You need an Indian CPL
2. You need to apply for Residence permit based on your wife's nationality (provided she has not already obtained a british passport).
Apply to HR of Kingfisher/Jet for ATR F/O

[LbyD]

yeah the new post is really cool.. !! :ok:

[flyygirl]

any links to any chain regarding extending of rt for pilots who have it converted from the caa?
thanks
:ok:

[cats200]

Guys any idea if the students who sat for the jet 1st aug written exam are allowed to sit foe this attempt?? i heard there is a cooling period of 6 months??!!??:ugh:

[3443 nautical miles]

@cats200 (http://www.pprune.org/members/328704-cats200)

we r allowed as I received an e-mail from their HR team to ask me to apply ..... I also gave exam last time.

[Uniform.]

@cats200
dont u think there are already 6month between 1st aug 2010 and 27th Feb 2011..
:E

[Aviator4u]

@cats200
i guess the cooling period u r tokin abt is for CAE indigo recruitment nt fr Jet...

[Uniform.]

I guess its applicable for jet too.. got to know this from my frnds who appeared for Jet's Aug attempt ... and anyways they are appearing this time too

[Aviator4u]

well,in that case too, the coolin period is over...so dsnt make any difference at all

[thearsenal]

yeah that cooling period is for indigo. i sat for the previous exam and i got thru to this one as well. so i dont think it is an issue.

[SuperflyTNT]

Has anyone received an e-mail from Jet Airways with regard to when the exam will be held and a confirmation on their application being accepted. Please do post if anyone has knowledge on this. Thank you

[fly.low]

is anybody applying 4 MDLR or Jagson airlines too?

[flyflyfly2me]

i heared CCMC is no longer taking the jetairways exam......is it true???
will there be the aptitute paper????
or just writtens n interview

[flyflyfly2me]

any news about indigo??? i heared they r going to start recruiting sooon....same abt spicejet

[tarmac]

Indigo never stopped recruiting, they are still doing it via CAE and some backdoor

[peeeprune]

@fly

indigo will hire in april this year.

about spicejet, i would suggest better not have any hopes about them. they will never recruit in the open, certainly not for the 250hr pilots... may be if you were typed on the ng and have some solid backing, you stand to get a call from them. but other than that, they dont bother..

and i hope that people are not rushing for the dash 8 type, they will end up in a bigger mess.

careful guys.

[SuperflyTNT]

@Peeprune

When you say IndiGo will hire during April this year, you mean through the CAE A320 program all of us are aware of or will this is a separate seating for an exam, similar to the one that Jet Airways is going to conduct in the near future.

[peeeprune]

For the junior FO position, Indigo will always hire only through the CAE-Indigo SST program.

If you wish to appear drop in your resume at the gurgaon office and maintain a follow up.:ok:

[flyflyfly2me]

so everytime one wishes to take indigo exam.....then u'll hv to pay Rs 20,000/-........thts pretty costly...but hv heared it will be a vacancy like jetairways....

[THE MIR]

Does indigo hire back door??:confused: if they do, can sum1 show me the door:)
pm me!!

[fly.low]

how to apply 4 idigo?
what is CAE program?

[SuperflyTNT]

@fly.low

https://pilot.cae.com/Programs/Indigo.aspx

Follow the above link and apply to sit for the IndiGo CAE program

[capt.pmr]

hello,


Any official mail from JET to anyone of you.... please shed some info

[Capt_Nemo]

i applied like 10-12 days back and havent got any official mail from Jet...and i noe 2-3 ppl more who havent received nething...other than the ref. no. ofcourse ...is someone out there who received mail from them???

[LbyD]

i think they will start sending roll nos in the Jan end.. after removing the form off their site.. nobody has yet received any mail from Jet.. will post here if we receive.. don't worry.. !! :cool: but do keep yourself updated.. (last time I missed jet exam bcz no frnd of mine was kind enough to tell me, so better get off ur a$$ and keep urself informed :) ) ...

[SuperflyTNT]

@LbyD

thank you, please let us know. I shall let you all know too

[flyygirl]

@peep,
why do u think spice would not hire.also why would you say q400 types a waste.fromwhat i know they have started hiring capts on turbo prop and hence tehy will also need fos in future.
anything??

[LbyD]

spicejet is looking for senior FOs for their bombardier Q400s... who already hold some airline experience or have thousand hours... they dont want the trainee ones.. :sad: .. their advertisement came last wednesday in ascent TOI...

[flyygirl]

lbyd thanx much:)!i had an idea but wasnt sure!any knowledge about them hiring fos?type cost and place to do?estimated intake?

[SuperflyTNT]

Spicejet asked for Captains and Senior FO's with an ATPL and flight time and type on the Q400. There must be only a handful of Indian pilots with experience and type on the Q400 is my guess. So, they will have to hire expats (as Commanders) to fly them for a certain period and also pilots with type and no hours for the postition of FO. I am only assuming though.

[flyygirl]

@ superfly perfectly makes sense.but can they hire expats now?i knw the period to use their services has been extended to 2013 june but is new hiring of expats for what so ever reason permitted?:oh:

[guitarboy]

So from the Aug 2010 Exam, anyone got an idea as to what fleet theyr being inducted on??

[midnight cowboy]

@ superfly perfectly makes sense.but can they hire expats now?i knw the period to use their services has been extended to 2013 june but is new hiring of expats for what so ever reason permitted?:oh:

Of course they (the airlines) can hire expats.

And you've answered your question yourself. The deadline would be further extended till 2015, and predictably will again get extended to 2018-20 etc and so on.

[skaios]

Does anyone know the status of the FOs selected in the last recruitment process? Have they completed their type or are they still waiting in the wings?

Also are they getting any stipend while they wait? What are the other T&Cs set by Jet?

Just curious..

[flyygirl]

@midnight i ask this because hiring and using the existing pilots services are 2 diff things right?
rest am not aware.if there is any particular car you have gone through post a link
thankyou

[flyygirl]

@skaios,
the 4th and 5th batch ipt is going on.first are doing the sp training.and third i belive are in ground .and 2 nd batch for type ;)
brussels

[midnight cowboy]

@flygirl

They're different things but as far as SG, 6E and 9W go, they're definitely going to hire more expat pilots.

These things are not mentioned in the CARs. They happen in the backstage over a few drinks and exchange of briefcases.

[aviation_insider]

@fly girl.

1st batch have finished their type rating and are going for their loft.
2nd batch , done with exams are going for their type rating anytime soon.
3rd batch still in ground school . Their exam is on 17th Feb.
4th batch is joining on 31st feb.
5th batch is going for their company medical in feb and are scheduled to join in march
6th batch, their IPT is done and they are supposed to join in May-June.

Till 4th batch everyone is on B737. IPT is done for all the selected people.

[aviator_boeing747]

4th batch is joining on 31st feb.

I would never wanna be a part of the 4th batch ever!!:p

[aviation_insider]

Typo:-
4th batch is joining the company on 31st Jan.

[flyygirl]

thanku for the info :) nearly same!

[flyygirl]

@ cowboy there definately must exist a norm for the hiring!

[epic787]

If 6th batch is to be joined in month of may-june, then how are they planing to hire more pilots on 27th feb?

[Valentino_Balboni]

Aviation-Insider,

I never knew Mr. S.Bhagwat was on this forum too! Glad to meet u again!:mad:

[Uniform.]

okay..!!

I would really appreciate if someone could suggest a good reference book for Jet Engines..!! :)
(apart from Oxford)
please

[cvchetan]

try the book by mark burton

[Uniform.]

@cvchetan
sorry but didnt find anything
could you please name the book..!!

[albaajay]

"Rolls Royce - The Jet Engine" is a nice book

[Uniform.]

@albaajay

Thanks :)

@all : few more name would be appreciated :)

[3443 nautical miles]

@Uniform (http://www.pprune.org/members/347791-uniform-)

Mike Burton's 'Gas turbine engine' its a very good book

[Speedbird1014]

Gas turbine engines by R E Birch published by jeppesen

[VictorFoxtrot]

Oxford ATPL series should be more than sufficient...i doubt any other book has more detailed knowledge than it...correct me if i am wrong:)

[cats200]

Guys in todays TIMES ASCENT Jet Airways ADVT for Type Rated First officers its clearly mentioned they need valid RTR (A)...even for trainee FO they want RTR (A) i dont think its a mistake they are very clear with what they want...!!!!:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

[planeboy_777]

yaa that correct you need to have an indian RTR(A)...:):)

[djajay.jayaraj]

:sad: has the Jet Air, HR confirmed that we need a RTR-A :confused:

Iv tried to get in touch, but unable to get a reply ....

[aviation_insider]

A valid RTR is required, doesn't matter if it A or P or whatever. They are concerned that you have a rtr with validity and not an expired one which renders a pilot for them grounded.
I know many people who have been selected in 2010 aug recruitment with RTR (p).
So relax.. don't panic.

[cats200]

Even i know a couple of people with height less than 162.5cms and lapsed IR who got IN.....I am talking about the current requirement!!!!

[Aviator4u]

@cats2000
Try mailin Mr.S.Bhagwat,HR manager. Very helpful and kind and replies within a day or so..

[PilotIndian737]

Do you have the email id of mr s.bhagwat ? can you please let me know...:)

[planeboy_777]

Guys any update on the allotted refrence nos................
one of my friend just submitted it online it was 74,^^^ for him.Damn!!! it has crossed over 4000 people:eek:.:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:AGAIN !!!:{:{:{

[guitarboy]

Dude! The starting Reference numbers were 65,***!!!!

[flyflyfly2me]

Where To Study Electricals From???do We Need To Study Ac Dc Etc Or Just The Basic Electricals???

[cvchetan]

study basics of both....

[cats200]

Any idea what the last date of submission of the form was or is?? on the IGRUA letter it says 15th JAN.That deadline was for IGRUA students only or every 1??? :confused:

[LbyD]

I think basic electricals are fine. Previous jet exam was all basic. I think they want to test just the general aviation knowledge. :cool:

[PilotIndian737]

jet airways written is on 24th feburary confirmed news.

[cvchetan]

any reliable source to confirm??

[sid89]

i called jet office admit card should be sent by 2 week of feb

[cvchetan]

Did they tell any exam date??

[fly.low]

@sid89


will they post admit cards or e-mail us?

[aviation_insider]

@fly.low
Post admit cards !!.. I have nothing personal against you sir but i can no longer stay without asking, that are you generally this stupid or is there some special occasion today?

Whats wrong with people here?? Some of the questions and info posted here is not only moronic but also utterly mind boggling. Some people are making so much wild assumptions as to the future hiring of a particular company as if they themselves are the owners. Bunch of other are more concerned about the T&C's of a company in which they have just applied rather than concentrating on studying itself.

and post cards... wow.. this just simply blew my lid off..

Now as the answer to your question sir.. they will send electronic mails which you will need to print using a printer and take the same piece of printed paper along with yourself to your designated center of written examination.

[fly.low]

@aviation_insider


for ur kind information sir, there is huge difference between the meaning of "MAIL" & "E-MAIL"......

n i have read many posts here in which people r using "mail" instead of "e-mail" and this thing confusing me alot.....

i am attempting jet exam 4 d first time n have no idea about their procedures......

another thing Mr.aviation_insider, i joined this site so that i can clear my doubts regarding anything(related to aviation). N i dont care, if u think that i got stupid doubts.......N btw thanx to clear my doubt

[sid89]

dont know about the exam date as per igrua link it sould be on 27 feb as its sunday on 27 and in aug atem paper was on 1 aug again sunday:confused:

[cvchetan]

thats what i was thinking, but got confused because some one in earlier post said that he was confirmed abt 24th feb which i dont think is possible..

One reason for tht can be no center can be free on a thursday, it can be free only on a sunday...

[Uniform.]

@all
there might be many over here who appeared for jet attempt in Aug 2010, I request them to please post few que. types asked, especially NAV and Tech....!!

how abt indian meteorology??

Just to get an idea of que level...

[albaajay]

Em jus puttin few questions here which i remember, was in Aug.... Pls correct me if ny question s wrong...

1 - by-pass ratio.
2 - 1 nm = ?
3 - longitude - east to west
4 - latitude - north south
5 - cabin pressure is set to - 8000 ft above msl
6 - wt 98 kg and a=10m/s2 and what is Force ?
7 - Equator is a G/C. It is also a _________.
8 - max thrust is at Propeller.
9 - effect of PNR if ff is reduced to 3%.
10 - effect of 90 deg crosswind in CP movement.
11 - Ram air turbine question
12 - Horizontally polarised em wave, e travels horizontally
13 - earth is heated by insolation,longwave radiation
14 - A/C descends from a higher altitude at constant IAS then MNo
15 - atmosphere is unstable when ELR is < > = SALR ?
16 - 2 questions on flight spoiler
17 - A/C generator are rated as KW KVA or VA
18 - Speed of Sound is 660.7 661.7 662.7 663.7
19 - 737 NG series - 600 700 800 900
20 - with permission of whome u can throw flowers from air
21 - V1 speed means

[Uniform.]

@albaajay

Thanks..!!
i must say these are really very very basic que.
and if m not wrong calculators were not allowed last time, so no numerical with major calculation work.. right??

[albaajay]

yea... no need of calculators as der s no tuf numericals... its all basic questions.. but the mental ability tests, it really confuses u...

[VT-ASB]

thanks a lot mate !!
could you please also shed some light on these ability /aptitude tests

[Uniform.]

@albaajay
please chek out this link and let us know if aptitude test had same sort of question or something different

Non Verbal Reasoning Questions and Answers (http://indiabix.com/non-verbal-reasoning/questions-and-answers/)

[cats200]

Does any 1 remember what all questions were asked in the 1st paper(the one which had many ques on hydraulics) in the previous exam.

[VictorFoxtrot]

@CATS200..
Q. on hydraulics......1).Function of hydraulic accumulator....ans..to absorb pulsations within the system and to act as an emergency source of hydraulic power.
2)Emergency source of power in the braking system...ans...hydraulic accumulator..:ok:

[albaajay]

this is not xactly the type of mental aptitude questions previosly asked.. but its similar to this.. jus check out....

Analogy - Non Verbal Reasoning Questions and Answers (http://indiabix.com/non-verbal-reasoning/analogy/)

Cubes and Dice - Non Verbal Reasoning Questions and Answers (http://indiabix.com/non-verbal-reasoning/cubes-and-dice/)

Figure Matrix - Non Verbal Reasoning Questions and Answers (http://indiabix.com/non-verbal-reasoning/figure-matrix/)

[Uniform.]

thanks :)

and as CATS200 asked, if you could mention questions from the 1st paper of Tech, which included hydraulics ...try to recall something :O

[airbone]

any idea whn is the jet exam i mean any conformation yet :confused:

[stiffy_pro]

Do Post, If any of you get the call letter...

[stiffy_pro]

Form is closed and got to know from the sources that the Jet wants IR to be current, so i guess they won't be entertaining people with the lapsed IR and no idea about the RTR(A).

[sky_thebeginning]

@stiffy pro

The form is still open on jet airways website...

[Uniform.]

@ stiffy_pro
also current IR is not required..!! confirmed

[hawaijahaj]

I too have a confirming mail from Mr. Bhagwat that current IR is not required.

[aadityaslg]

You Sir, certainly don't sound "PRO".. :hmm:

[cobracommander]

well, 1 of the reasons why most of the forms were not uploading was of Non-Current IR. And that is why evryone who didnt want to miss the oppurtunity went and got their Ir revalidated after which the new 'current' dates were accepted and the forms got uploaded without a glitch!!

So I personally doubt that statement.

Btw, ppl who r preparing for the JET xam, is CPL level aircraft knowledge on pistons along with a bit of JEt enough?
Kindly shed some light.
Thnx

[cvchetan]

thousands of forms with lapsed IR were accepted.. the upload problem was due to error on the jetairways side.

yes it should do just fine..

[aadityaslg]

I got an IR on the BE-76 .. it would take sometime to get an Aussie Visa, do the recency flying.. n get my application processed by DGCA.. So its better I try my luck without it..

[cobracommander]

Q) in emergency situation,breaking axn is initiated by:

A. Accumulator in breaking system of a/c
B.PIlot initiates breaking axn in large aeroplanes.

???

Anyone remembers any qs on UNdercarriage??

[Aviator4u]

A) as accumulator acts as a reserve for emergencies besides maintainin constant presure withn the system

[aadityaslg]

Effect on time & distance to PNR if FF is reduced by 3%?

[Aviator4u]

if u mean flight fuel by FF,then the dPNR wd dec.by same %age as FF,3% in this case and if u mean fuel flow then its opposite.cheers!!!

[fly.low]

i came to know from sum1 that 9W has already started sending call letters....
but i didnt get any e-mail.....
anybody here got any e-mail?

[fly.low]

@aviator4U

PROPERTY OF CP
"IF HEADWIND CHANGES TO TAILWIND OR VICE-VERSA, DIST. TO CP WILL CHANGE FROM HALF WAY POSITION BY SAME DISTANCE...."

CAN U EXPLAIN IT WID AN EXAMPLE?

[sid89]

bubby admit card went to the guys who applied for tr vacancy and exam is on the 11 feb for then
dont know about our vacancy the tr guys were send the admit card by mail 13 days before

even i did not got any mail as well :sad:

[Radar_Contact]

@fly.low

on ground ur calculated CP is 800NM for 50kts tailwind...total distance is 2000NM...bt after t/o...actual winds were 50kts HW....ur new CP is 1200NM

[aadityaslg]

by FF- I meant fuel flow..
Should'nt it increase the distance to PNR by 3%?

D = E(OH/O+H)

if Other factors remain constant say "X"
then D = E*X

NOW E = Flight Fuel/Fuel Flow

say FF decreases by 3% therefore taking an example say 60mins endurance
from 100 lit of fuel and fuel flow of 100 lit/hr.

so 97 lit/hr consumption will give u 1.85 mins of extra E

(1.85/60)*100 = 3% increase in DPNR.

Is this correct?

[aadityaslg]

thanks for your reply.. cheers!

[fly.low]

@radar contact

thank you:D
i got it now

[Uniform.]

@all

I suppose everyone might be having the ebook of Oxford book set here.
I dont have the answer set for the POWER-PLANT book within :ugh: , just wanted to know, is this the case with every1..! :rolleyes:

please do reply

[Uniform.]

Is it BASIC GAS TURBINE... ?? :confused:

[Vertigo911]

Hey buddy, If you give me your email id I can send you the answers to the power plant questions.

Cheers

[Vertigo911]

In that case check your page numbers, you might be missing out on many pages, because I have the same book 4 Powerplant and there are about 20 questions for the first chapter(Introduction) in the gas turbines section. Chapter 2 is Air Inlets.

[Uniform.]

@Vertigo911
check ur PM

[flyygirl]

anyone here has got roll numbrs or any sort of confirmation?:confused:


keep posted!
happy studyng!:ok:

[SuperflyTNT]

Anyone here know the kind of electrical based questions asked last time. If any of you have an idea, please post

[Radar_Contact]

definition of EMF.
power rating of generator.
calculation of battery backup power [Ampere-Hour] in which many of my frnds screwed up cz cz they miscalculated or something n misunderstood d qstn. i rem the qstn somewhat like -
an 150Ah battery will provide 450amps for how long????
some chose 3hrs :ugh: :=
bt the answer was 20min :ok: