Skywest

[Natit]

Found this at another site, not to sure where it has been referenced from sorry.

PERTH-BASED regional carrier Skywest has announced a deal in which four A320 aircraft will be added to its fleet “to establish various new services”.

UK-listed Advent Air, which is Skywest’s major shareholder, said the planes will come from an Iceland-based firm called Avion Group which currently owns Star Airlines in France and Germanbased Star Europe.

The company said it intends to add the A320s to Skywest’s current high-capacity Air Operators Certificate, with even more aircraft to be added to cope with seasonal demand if required.

The deal also includes provision of a marketing budget for the establishment of new routes and there’s a profit sharing deal which will see each party paying its own costs, and Skywest not exposed to any capital investment.

Advent’s Jeff Chatfield said the move would also allow some of the carrier’s existing aircraft to be used to service charters for the “buoyant resources sector environment”.

-td

[Icarus2001]

Nothing on the Skywest website.

Nothing on the ASX website about a company announcement.

[56P]

Sydney Morning Herald Thu 10 Aug 2006
Section: Business News
Page 23

[IFF]

http://webfund5.financialexpress.net/stanlife/sli_portfolio_read_announcement.wsp?viewpid=308268921&type=type=&unit=AAIR&item=200608081557254137H&title=Strategic+Partnership&unitname=&day=08&month=08&year=2006&time=15:57

[Aussie]

Sounds like Jet* might have some competition for drivers.... hehe :}

Aussie

[Hawk777]

Skystar320 seems to be in the know.

Is this the "New Dom Carrier" you have previously mentioned??

[WA-CEET]

Did know Skywest was getting more aircraft, as was mentioned as part of the increase flights pth-bme....thought was more F100's


also this came out in Australian:

"Skywest takeover near

Steve Creedy, Aviation writer


SINGAPORE-based CaptiveVision Capital (CVC) has all but completed its takeover of Skywest Airlines, Western Australia's major regional carrier, lifting its stake to almost 80 per cent.

CVC was the major shareholder in Skywest when it announced its bid in May to capitalise on Western Australia's resources boom, which has increased demand for charter services.
CVC is offering 22.7c in cash as well 0.4171 of a share in CVC's parent, Advent Air. It said yesterday it held 78.1 per cent of Skywest's voting stock. An independent expert's report by PKF Corporate Advisory has deemed the offer, equivalent to 32.2c a share, as fair and reasonable.
Skywest's independent directors have recommended that the offer, which expires on Monday, be accepted. The second and third biggest shareholders have said they will sell.
Skywest operates charter and regular passenger services and last month reported a 10.55 per cent increase in passenger numbers for 2005-06.
The airline has five Fokker 50 turbo-prop aircraft and three Fokker 100 jets, with a sixth F50 due to arrive in August.
Charters such as fly-in/fly-out services to mines earned about $14 million in the year to May 31. That compared with unaudited total revenue of $70.8 million and pre-tax operating profit after abnormals of $2.36 million. In its outlook, PKF says Skywest expects revenues to rise to around $97 million in the 2007 financial year, with a pre-tax profit of around $4.3 million."

[Skystar320]

Skystar320 seems to be in the know.
Is this the "New Dom Carrier" you have previously mentioned??
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
But something is not too right about this............. They are in a gr8 position to do something like this but i thought they were getting more F100's.
Tell you more later if it comes up

[Capt Claret]

Maybe it's the first step in WA's secession from mainland Australia! :E

[Uncle Jestar]

CVC is also the company that owns 51% of REX, soon 100% of Pelair and 100% of Airlink. The Singorporeans are also tied up with the same national superannuation company that wholly owns Singapore Airlines. I would be very nervous if I was G. Dixon because this will give them back door access to ALL air routes out of Australia through their associated companys AOC's
:eek: :}
Advent Air Limited
08 August 2006
For immediate release via RNS
8 August 2006
Advent Air Limited
('Advent Air' or the 'Company')
Strategic partnership with Avion Group
The Board of Advent Air announces today that it has conditionally agreed a
strategic partnership with Avion Group, the Iceland-based investment company
specialising in air, land and sea transportation solutions worldwide, to utilise
certain additional aircraft in the Skywest Ltd air services network.
Advent Air controls Skywest Ltd in which it currently has a relevant ownership
interest of 78.1 per cent. Advent Air has made a takeover offer seeking to
increase its ownership of Skywest Ltd to 100 per cent. The closing date for the
takeover offer is currently the 22nd of August 2006 unless extended.
The conditional agreement provides for a profit sharing arrangement. Two of the
airlines that Avion Group owns, Star Airlines of France and Star Europe of
Germany, are to provide between one and four Airbus A320 Aircraft, from a fleet
which comprises some of the newest and highest quality aircraft within the
market place. It is intendedthat the aircraft shall be placed on Skywest's
Australian high capacity Air Operators Certificate ('AOC') for operation by
Skywest in its airline network. Further aircraft may be added to the AOC as
applicable for seasonal work, if demand is sufficient, under temporary
importation arrangements. The parties have agreed to jointly provide a marketing
budget to establish various new services. The terms of the profit sharing
arrangement are that each party pays its own costs and depending on route flown
either 75% or 50% of the profits remain with Skywest Ltd. Neither Advent Air nor
Skywest Ltd are exposed to the capital investment risk associated with ownership
of these relatively new aircraft.
Jeff Chatfield, Chairman of Advent Air said:
'With increasing demand for air travel in the region along with increasing
tourism growth, the strategic partnership provides the Advent Air group with a
flexible opportunity to attempt to grow its fleet and service capacity using
larger aircraft, without making substantial capital investments. New Airbus
aircraft are highly fuel efficient, thus providing lower operating costs per
passenger. This arrangement provides the opportunity to accommodate additional
passengers in the network as well as provide opportunities for growth of the
network itself. Skywest's existing aircraft may be redeployed to service
resource industry charter opportunities that have resulted from the current
buoyant resources sector environment that Skywest operates in.
The new aircraft are to be deployed with enhanced leg room that matches
Skywest's existing seat configuration; we believe that our passengers will enjoy
a superior level of comfort and service.'
About Skywest Airlines
Skywest is an award winning airline that has been meeting the needs of
Australian domestic and international tourist and business travellers for more
than 42 years. Skywest has flown millions of passengers throughout Western
Australia, to the Northern Territory of Australia, and to Indonesia. Skywest has
enjoyed high growth rates in revenue, profits and passenger numbers from 2004
when the Company became its dominant shareholder with a controlling interest.
About Avion Group
Avion Group is a global transportation solutions group founded on January 1,
2005. The Avion Group is listed on the Icelandic Stock Exchange and is
organized into three business divisions -- Aviation Services, Charter & Leisure
and Shipping & Logistics. Aviation Services consists of ACMI (Aircraft, Crew,
Maintenance, Insurance) providerAir Atlanta Icelandic, maintenance provider
Avia Technical Services and airport handling provider Southair. Charter &
Leisure is represented by leisure service travel provider Excel Airways Group
(UK), Star Airlines (France) and Star Europe (Germany). The Shipping and
Logistics division is represented by Eimskip, the prime maritime transportation
company in Iceland, with its fleet of approximately 30 ships. In addition to the
vessels, there are currently approximately 60 Boeing and Airbus aircraft in the
fleet.
Avion Group employs close to 6,000 people at 110 operational bases worldwide.
Enquires:
Jeff Chatfield, Chairman, Advent Air Ltd 07783 942 553
Roland Cornish, Beaumont Cornish Limited 0207 628 3396
Philip Haydn-Slater, W H Ireland Limited 0207 220 1690
Leesa Peters / Abigail Singleton , Conduit PR 0207 429 6666
+44 (0) 7812159 885
Suzanne Brocks, Buchanan Communications on behalf of
Avion Group 0207 466 5000
This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange

[Eagleman]

Maybe this is Singapore Airlines entry into Australia

[Hawk777]

Capt Claret

I like that "Skywest, Western Australia's NATIONAL Carrier"

:ok:

[Over and gout]

Maybe it's the first step in WA's secession from mainland Australia! :E


One can only hope !:E

[coaldemon]

4 A320s would be great for the airline but as far as a brand goes Skywest is not known at all outside WA. That is a great big hurdle to cover to put up a fight against VB and Qantas even on the Ph.SY or PH.Ml runs. History has shown us that there is only space for 2 airlines and 3 is not a crowd for long.:\

[Led Zep]

4 A320s would be great for the airline but as far as a brand goes Skywest is not known at all outside WA. That is a great big hurdle to cover to put up a fight against VB and Qantas even on the Ph.SY or PH.Ml runs. History has shown us that there is only space for 2 airlines and 3 is not a crowd for long.:\

Maybe they should start flying out of Darwin, might make tin happier!

[WA-CEET]

will be intersting to see what routes they will be used on......or what will emerge.

very much a stayed tuned.......:suspect:

[F/O Bloggs]

I'll believe when I see a Skywest A320 on the line.

It will be at least a year before they get them on their AOC (if ever.)
:}

[Natit]

AD-DN (even via ASP) would be nice at some stage.. put up some competition against QFA since VOZ pulled out.

$600-700 return up to the top end! A little expensive to go see some backpackers :{

[max autobrakes]

I wonder if they'll try and get them ETOPS approved. :}

[Chronic Snoozer]

http://www.skywest.com/media/facts.php

The brand is known outside WA. Its not known as an Australian brand though.

[Mr.Buzzy]

Oh Great! I can see it now! The Poms teaching the Frogs how to fly their own plane!

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[Ralph the Bong]

A little criptic Mr Buzzy. Care to elaborate??

[Tofasttofly]

Good Luck to you all especially the two chaps that have just joined Skywest from the sinking Eastern/QantasLink ship, you blokes have done well. Give Dixon Hell......................................

[Howard Hughes]

You crack me up with your succint comments Mr Buzzy, where you been lately?:ok:

[Mr.Buzzy]

Hi Howard,
Been laying low since my attitude adjustment from Woomera.
:ok: Buzzy

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[Howard Hughes]

Well it's good to have you back!!:D

[Skystar320]

Okay,

Keeping my ears down to the ground about the 'new' carrier Skywest was'nt it.

The Skywest order for 4 x A320 came as a bit of surprise but i will believe it when i see it. These up to 4 A320 replace 3 x Fokker 100 and allow more flexible route schedule makes sence.

The 'new' carrier is still going i do believe. Skywest isn't the new domestic carrier.

Anyway i gtg run run run. 1 plus 1 equals = 2!!! Back to the beancounters

[cunninglinguist]

With the last reported load factor across the fleet around 60%, there will have to be some serious pulling of rabbits out of hats to not make this the thing that sinks Skywest, although they do have that state gov protection :rolleyes:

" Give dixon Hell " ?????????? 4 320s V 23 ( currently ) 320s :confused:

[Over and gout]

Okay,
These up to 4 A320 replace 3 x Fokker 100 and allow more flexible route schedule makes sence.



I heard the A320s are an addition to the fleet - not a replacement. I also heard they are getting another F100 as well another F50....:ok: Don't know where they are going to put them though.....

[Skystar320]

Hmmmmm I heard the rumour of them getting another F50 Where are they going to put it????

Could it be a re-invintation to the good old days of MMA?

Hmm what i hear they are replacing F100 with the A320?

[Capn Bloggs]

Park 'em like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/webpixx/prune/F28satPerth600.jpg
:ok: :ok:

[ebt]

Hmmmmm I heard the rumour of them getting another F50 Where are they going to put it????

Could it be a re-invintation to the good old days of MMA?

Hmm what i hear they are replacing F100 with the A320?

I very much doubt that they would be replacing the F100 with the 320. From what I have read, it seems that they're going to focus on growth with these babies by putting them on higher capacity routes and growing a few new ones. The F100 will be used still to chase FIFO contracts, as well as some ports where it makes more sense than the 320s. Some other routes may be introduced with the F100s too, so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

At the very least they can use the A320s in September of coming years when the Eagles win consecutive premierships! :ok:

[gaunty]

Aaaaaah Bloggsy, now that just photo just brought back a whole lot of bittersweet memories.:{

A simple and more civilised time when aviators were really like Ernie Ganns "Band of Brothers" and the crews knew most of their passengers by their first names.

It's never been the same or as good since.

[Capn Bloggs]

Right on, Gaunty! Although they did have their barnies with management; the jet jockeys of today have those fellas (and others on the east coast at the time) to thank for the conditions they currently enjoy (or did until recently...:( ).
when the Eagles win consecutive premierships
TRY to win... :E

[Captahab]

Is it possible for someone to photoshop the removal of that last aircraft on the end, tends to spoil the piccy :E

Ahab

[Eagleman]

" Give dixon Hell " ?????????? 4 320s V 23 ( currently ) 320s :confused:

From little acorns..........

[Woomera]

Can't resist this, but it took that many little Fokkers to fill up that great big focker down the back.:p

[Over and gout]

Wow those F28s look alot smaller than what I remember them being as a kid :ugh:

[ShockWave]

"Where are they going to put them?" The answer to that would be in the air.
If you ever see them parked on the ground together then they aren't being used enough.

[cunninglinguist]

Eagleman, yeh I know, skywest will do it differently.............from Compass 1, compass 2, Impulse, Ozjet ( the other one with DC9s ) etc and the few that did'nt even get off the ground.
The boss wanted to have 7 or 8 F100s 2 years ago, where'd they get to ?

Third independant airline in Australia....not in your or my lifetime

[Lodown]

Rather large aircraft and range capabilities for servicing just the WA regions? Sydney, Melburne and Brisbane wouldn't be on the drawing boards by any chance with a link to SIA services? A codeshare with SIA would throw the cat amongst the pigeons and put the pressure on Virgin to get its finger out on OS ops.

I can hear alarm bells going off in some corporate offices.

[BrianCat]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l93/logitechms/F28satPerth600minusQ.jpg

[gaunty]

Now wherever did that BIG fokker go? :confused: :p

[Knackers]

Well, I'm impressed Briancat. You just can't trust any pictures these days.

[Capn Bloggs]

Even more impressive is that Brian Cat has made only 2 posts since 2001! :eek:

[B772]

Rather large aircraft and range capabilities for servicing just the WA regions? Sydney, Melburne and Brisbane wouldn't be on the drawing boards by any chance with a link to SIA services? A codeshare with SIA would throw the cat amongst the pigeons and put the pressure on Virgin to get its finger out on OS ops.
I can hear alarm bells going off in some corporate offices.

Why a code share with SIA, why not a PER-SIN service to replace the former Valueair service.

[a123]

It is confirmed 3 A320 s comming from Ireland start 2 nd November

[dodgybrothers]

as long as my big ol' a-hole points to the ground there is no way any hc-rpt operator can get an aircraft of that complexity up, on the aoc and running by november. Even the captain's of dodge, njs, took them 5 months and only by the skin of their hairy chin chins. What about maintenance, have they a hangar capable of taking it, no operators on the perth airfield would have coverage and only the old an guys would have coverage.

6 to 8 months at the very least.

[Lodown]

B772, it could be anything. I'm only sprouting off based on the information I've read over time on Pprune. SIA wants a shot at domestic ops in Australia to add to their international services. The lack of codeshare means a cap on their growth in Australia. Qantas has an enormous advantage over every other operator into Australia because of their International and Domestic integration. As a comparitively small operator on the PER-SIN run, Skywest would be taking some big risks. The main one being that other airlines with much deeper pockets would quickly find out if they were making a profit and jump on the route. Another issue would be expanding from a domestic into the international marketplace. A tie-in with SIA would make an expansion a much safer bet. The links mentioned above in other posts with Singapore seem to be more than just coincidence. A codeshare domestic operation with SIA would be a relatively safe way to expand into trans-national domestic ops.
Perhaps I'm being overly optimistic, but it would be nice to know. I would enjoy seeing some real competition to Qantas.

[Pedota]

Lodown, please forgive me if I misunderstood your posts, but Singapore Airlines already has three daily flights from Perth to Singapore and QANTAS two. They don’t need to “jump on the route” if a smaller operator makes a profit.

I’m not sure about the Singapore Airlines strategy of making a backdoor entry into the domestic market . . . maybe you are right?

And earlier you said “Rather large aircraft and range capabilities for servicing just the WA regions?”

Maybe you are also right about Skwyest's greater domestic expansion strategy - but the distances and demand are quite large in WA. As you can see from the MMA (Ansett) photo above, the market supported a fleet of F-28s in the 1970s – which were upgraded to later model Fokkers and then 146s. I think the booming WA market has been under serviced since the demise of Ansett in 2001 and we’re finally seeing its re-stabilisation. But I could be wrong?

In any case I too would like to see more competition in the domestic market.

Cheers

Pedota

[Lodown]

Pedota, no misunderstanding. My error. I should have said, "...jump on the newcomer." I haven't a clue whether SIA would make a backdoor entry into the domestic market, but it's a nice thought all the same.

[Moniker]

IF the date of 2 Nov was a goer, interesting that that is so nice and close to Alliances date of 1 Nov for start up in WA.

Is there any chance that they are in cahoots with each other?

That would be a reasonable link up .. f100's to scoot around the mines and the other stuff for the larger domestic/Bali routes - and the WA/NT routes are dreadfully underserviced. For that matter, DRW-ADL-PER could use an altn as well!

I have heard that crew from one low level operator from the top end flatly refuses to board the turbo prop fleet from another DRW based operator.

[gas-chamber]

Of course they could be up and running with a new type by 2nd November. There is a provision in the regulations to allow foreign registered airplanes to be added to an AOC for up to 6 months. Crews would have to hold the licence of the country of registry to fly them. Plenty of time for those crews to train the locals, then switch to Oz rego. Most of the manuals are probably already written and if already in their hands even CASA could assess an addition to an AOC in 60 days if they pulled their finger out.

[RENURPP]

I have heard that crew from one low level operator from the top end flatly refuses to board the turbo prop fleet from another DRW based operator.

I believe what you have heard is correct.
They will not travel Darwin - Broome or any were else for that matter with a particular companies E120, based on perceived safety reasons.

[dijon moutard]

Avion Group Joint Venture with Advent Air Limited


8/18/2006, Avion Group, a leading international transport solutions group, is pleased to announce a strategic joint venture with Advent Air Ltd an Australasian airline group, listed on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange (AAIR.LN).


Under the terms of the agreement, Avion’s subsidiaries, Star Airlines of France and Star Europe of Germany, will between them provide up to four Airbus A320 aircraft to Advent Air’s subsidiary, Skywest Ltd.


Avion Group, a leading international transport solutions group, is pleased to announce a strategic joint venture with Advent Air Ltd an Australasian airline group, listed on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange (AAIR.LN).


Under the terms of the agreement, Avion’s subsidiaries, Star Airlines of France and Star Europe of Germany, will between them provide up to four Airbus A320 aircraft to Advent Air’s subsidiary, Skywest Ltd.


Skywest is an award winning airline that has been meeting the needs of Australian domestic and international tourists and business travellers for more than 42 years. Skywest has flown millions of passengers throughout Western Australia, to the Northern Territory of Australia and to Indonesia.


Skywest reported turnover last year of over A$100 million, yielding profits of A$7 million. Skywest has reported high growth in passenger numbers from 2004 when Advent became its dominant shareholder with a controlling interest.


Avion’s Charter & Leisure division are responsible for securing the deal with Advent, in line with their stated strategy of focusing on maximum utilisation of aircraft through agreements with airlines throughout the World.


Under the terms of the deal with Advent, Avion’s Star Airlines will benefit from utilisation of their A320 aircraft during the Winter schedule, from November to April, which is Skywest’s peak season given their long haul destinations. This is contrary to Star Airlines’ and Star Europe’s high season therefore, maximising utilization of existing aircraft.


Avion has also made an agreement with Xtra Airways, headquartered in Nevada USA, to lease part of Excel Airways’ fleet during the Winter schedule, also high season for Xtra Airways. Xtra will lease three to four aircraft from Excel Airways over Winter 2006.


Delivery of the first aircraft under the deal with Advent, is scheduled for November 2006 in Perth, Australia, with the remaining aircraft delivered, subject to both parties’ agreement, over an anticipated period of two years from November 2007. The first aircraft will be available on Skywest’s route network year round, following which, it is anticipated additional aircraft will be made available on a demand driven and seasonal basis every year.


Additionally, Avion has signed an agreement to purchase 9,801,012 ordinary shares in the capital of Advent Air Ltd, representing approximately 5% of the currently issued share capital of the company. The share purchase represents an investment of £1,421,147 by Avion Group. The purchase will be financed through Avion Group’s equity and with debt.


Commenting on the joint venture, Magnus Thorsteinsson, Chairman of Avion Group, said:


“This agreement with Advent not only provides the Group with further revenue potential, but is also an endorsement of the many opportunities we believed Star Airlines would represent for Avion when we acquired the company earlier this year.


“The deal provides Avion Group access to the highly lucrative and fast growing Australian and Asian aviation markets through utilisation of Star’s fleet, which comprise some of the newest and highest quality aircraft within the market place.”

1,421,147.00 GBP United Kingdom Pounds = 3,516,270.32 AUD Australia Dollars
:ok:

[Icarus2001]

f100's to scoot around the mines and the other stuff for the larger ...and how many of "the mines" have a strip capable of handling a F100? Many cannot even take the BAE146!!

As for an A320 being "too big" for WA. I suggest some of you take out an atlas and look at the distance from Perth to Broome/Hedland/Karratha/Learmonth and of course Bali.

The aircraft may arrive in November but they will not be on revenue flights until early 2007.:)

[Moniker]

Icarus

a strip capable of handling a F100

How about PBO or Newman (the code escapes me), Barrow Island (I think there's something in the offing there in the not too distant future). When I say mines, I wasn't referring to the short dirt strips scattered around the country side.

Will be interesting to watch, indeed.

[cunninglinguist]

Interesting Gas Chamber, as dodgy said about 5 months to get Oz registered a/c into another oz registered operator, 1 a/c initially, with skeleton crews on 1 route, manuals already in circulation from existing oz operator and all that with a truckload of help from said oz operators flight and ground staff.......but Skywest will do it in 2 months with foreign a/c from a foreign operator with ( i assume ) foreign crews, since an A320 rating for a skywest pilot from wo to go is 3 to 3 1/2 months.

Icarus, yep PBO or NWN or BWI, no probs, just need to have a litle thing called a contract, can't operate into any of those without one. Ansett tried after they lost the contract to Q/Link and were told in no uncertain terms to PO.

Am a bit confused about the article stating that November to April is peak season....the wet (north ) used to be the off season, oh well, thats global warming for ya.

[dijon moutard]

LEADERSHIP IN TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS
Avion Group is an investment company formed on January 1, 2005 to invest in the transportation industry, and is currently formed of three business divisions: Shipping & Logistics, Aviation Services and Charter & Leisure. The Shipping & Logistics division is represented by Eimskip, the prime maritime transportation company in Iceland, with its fleet of approximately 30 ships, 40 coldstores, 3,000 employees at 80 operational bases. Aviation Services is represented by Air Atlanta Icelandic and maintenance service provider, Avia Technical Services. The Charter & Leisure division is represented by Excel Airways Group in the UK, Star Airlines, the second largest charter airline in France and the newly founded Star Europe in Germany. Currently there are approximately 60 Boeing and Airbus aircraft in Avion Group's fleet with 3,500 employees involved in our Aviation Services and Charter & Leisure activities.

:ok:

[Brasilian Bird]

Quick q for ya, could one take an F100 to Barrow from Perth direct, or do they have to stop somewhere on the way for security/customs (say BME).. just wondering because I know one or two Per-based operators did it with turboprops (being security checked arriving Per) can't remember if they had to stop on the way up though...

There's more than QF, DJ or XR Perth to Darwin... if you like turboprops that is... :}

[Capn Bloggs]

could one take an F100 to Barrow from Perth direct, or do they have to stop somewhere on the way for security/customs (say BME)..
I hope this guy isn't planning the A320 introduction!:}

[slice]

Bras bird, do you actually know where Barrow Island is ???:uhoh: Customs?? :confused:

[WA-CEET]

Actually Bras is almost correct they have a AQIS inspection as it is and A class reserve.

Bras bird, do you actually know where Barrow Island is ???:uhoh: Customs?? :confused:

[BrianCat]

PER-BWB might be doable? :8
For tourists: http://www.abc.net.au/nature/island/ep3/map/default.htm :)

-----

GC DISTANCE: PER-BWB 763nm
AIRFIELD DATA: 1900m ASPHALT PCN 015FAYT
AIRCRAFT DATA:

MTOW 44,450 kg
MLW 39.915 kg
MZFW 36.740 kg
MTW 44.680 kg


Basic Empty Weight: ~ 26,800 kg
Takeoff Distance: (SL, ISA, MTOW) 1.720 m
Landing Distance: (SL, ISA, MLW) 1,400 m
Tyre pressure 142 psi (PCN OK)


Est. Block Time ~2:20
Est. Block fuel 8,095 kg {Taxi 100 kg, Trip 4,500 kg, Reserve (6%) 270 kg, Approach & land 175 kg, Holding 1700 kg, Alternate (PHE 211 nm) 1,350 kg}
=> MTOW limited (Est. payload: 9,355 kg)
Est. Landing weight: 39,675 kg


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REFERENCES

http://gc.kls2.com/airport/BWB
fokker.avsim.net/download/F100-PCL.pdf
www.sh-e.com/presentations/f100_brochure.pdf
http://www.worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AS92969&sch=barrow+island
www.airporttech.tc.faa.gov/.../COMFAA%20-%20Airport%20Pavement%20Thickness%20and%20Strength%20Evaluat ion.doc

[Skystar320]

Okay i am complelty lost...................................

Keeping myself down on all hand and knees there seems to be alot of talk of indeed Skywest will receieve any A320's its simple

"Where to put them"

Logical thinking PER - SYD PER - MEL sectors though slot issues at the common user terminal at perth will be a problem. Though they could run them up to DRW, BME and even SIN, DPS, CGK or Port headland - CKG = getting extremely good loads

"Getting another F50"

Okay now this is an :eek: i remember 2yrs ago they had a Fokker 50 sitting on the ground for majority of the week and flying not much revenue service.
They were sourcing the aircraft to a local operator in Indonesia for that Fokker 50.
Okay thinking caps on. They have made a Fooker 50 freigher!!!! could it be one of them to operate the inland coast run with Horizon did years ago?

"More F100's"

Okay brilliant machines work well but a limited contracts and routes means where do they put them???? PER - KGI PER - ADL logical thinking.

Okay gtg run those beans need to be counted.

What u say guys / girls

[Capn Bloggs]

GC DISTANCE: PER-BWB 763nm
Try 669nm (via ONSLO).

[ebt]

Okay i am complelty lost...................................

Keeping myself down on all hand and knees there seems to be alot of talk of indeed Skywest will receieve any A320's its simple

"Where to put them"

Logical thinking PER - SYD PER - MEL sectors though slot issues at the common user terminal at perth will be a problem. Though they could run them up to DRW, BME and even SIN, DPS, CGK or Port headland - CKG = getting extremely good loads

"Getting another F50"

Okay now this is an :eek: i remember 2yrs ago they had a Fokker 50 sitting on the ground for majority of the week and flying not much revenue service.
They were sourcing the aircraft to a local operator in Indonesia for that Fokker 50.
Okay thinking caps on. They have made a Fooker 50 freigher!!!! could it be one of them to operate the inland coast run with Horizon did years ago?

"More F100's"

Okay brilliant machines work well but a limited contracts and routes means where do they put them???? PER - KGI PER - ADL logical thinking.

Okay gtg run those beans need to be counted.

What u say guys / girls
Got to agree with you on the A320 services. I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with them, and I'd say those routes are the most likely.

As for the Fokker 50s, it won't be a freighter. Word around is that they are taking an ex-MAS machine that FlyAsianExpress aren't going to use. From what I hear those F50s are getting a workout at the moment, given they've picked up a couple of new routes under the last round of licensing. Also charter interest may be there (contract and ad hoc stuff), as well as just having another bird on the ground for when one goes u/s.

Fokker 100s - compete more with QF Link, use them to build routes and frequency matched with the A320s, take more contracts. PER could become quite a haven for this type with Alliance moving a couple over. From what I see the competition for more contract work is going to be particularly fierce between Skywest and Alliance as QF's 717s won't suffice at many ports and NJS is kind of limited with their BAes. Remember that Fortescue Metals and a hole bunch of others are likely to be opening up around Headland soon, so there should be plenty of FIFO work.

[4SPOOLED]

I hear this call quite frequently when jaunting up the coast,

TRAFFIC BARROW ISLAND, QANTAS IFR BOEING 737 Ground, taxing for runway.......

So one would assume a F100 wouldnt have to much problem getting up there? Ive been lead to believe they are chartered flights etc.

Yeah everything going there gets licked and picked by the greenies as Barrow island is a untouched paradise of wildlife native only to the island. Great place to whack a few oil wells in hey? Fishing is pretty good behind the island though :)

4S

[dodgybrothers]

I think your ears might be damaged from those 4 spooled donkeys because no 737s go in there let alone the Qantas ones. Pavement strengths at the moment are huge a concern, in fact the 146's have to use F30 for TO. Although after the possible extensions, runway re-alignment, inter-planetary alignments and fitment of wings to pigs, a 737 may be able to go in there.

Food for thought:

It's all about rig tranfers with on-shore staff increasing as gorgon goes ahead. So what company is going to allow an A320 or a B737 for that matter, to sit on the ground for nearly 3 hours during the peak part of the flying day ie 0830 to 1130, while tranfers rotate? In saying all of this, currently QF has a 737 sitting on the ground at Karrachi for about 3 hours, but are not happy about it and will possibly change in the not too distant future.

[Skystar320]

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[4SPOOLED]

I think your ears might be damaged from those 4 spooled donkeys because no 737s go in there let alone the Qantas ones. Pavement strengths at the moment are huge a concern, in fact the 146's have to use F30 for TO. Although after the possible extensions, runway re-alignment, inter-planetary alignments and fitment of wings to pigs, a 737 may be able to go in there.
Food for thought:
It's all about rig tranfers with on-shore staff increasing as gorgon goes ahead. So what company is going to allow an A320 or a B737 for that matter, to sit on the ground for nearly 3 hours during the peak part of the flying day ie 0830 to 1130, while tranfers rotate? In saying all of this, currently QF has a 737 sitting on the ground at Karrachi for about 3 hours, but are not happy about it and will possibly change in the not too distant future.

Hmmmm

Barrow Island 03/21 1900m WID30 RWS150

Any 73 drivers want to elaborate?

[Alistair]

Hmmmm

Barrow Island 03/21 1900m WID30 RWS150

Any 73 drivers want to elaborate?

Certainly doable. Depends on lots of things though. What you want to take out in terms of weight (pax+fuel), temp, thrust rating for the engines etc, but i would think doable. Any hills around there in the 2nd seg?

We do Inverness in the UK in 300/700's at around 2000m with 20K engines and it isn't too limited. Temps will be a lot lower and I think it is wider than 30m though.

[Led Zep]

Hills on Barrow Island? A couple of hangars and flare stacks...unless you count the termite mounds. :ok::)
I'd think that you'd be temp limited out of Barrow. (Does a certain helo operator still use S76s out of there?)

[4SPOOLED]

Im almost 100% positive though that ive heard QF 73's on MC broadcasting their intentions because i thought it was very strange hearing a large a/c giving CTAF like calls when i only ever hear them using their flight numbers in CTA.

Another point is my old man and best mate do alot of drilling there, one being on a barge behind barrow right now, and when the last cyclone came through they evacuated the entire island with "large Qantas jets with engines on the wings" as my mate put it. I tried to probe him further deciphering between a 146 and a 73, however he said the seating was 3 and 3......sounds like a 73 to me!

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[cunninglinguist]

4spool, flew into BWI for nearly 10 years, there was never a 737 there, unless they diverted due wx at KA, for reasons which have aleady been done to death, not the least of which is pavement strength.
we used to have to get approval ( and let the tyres down ) to operate a 300 146 in there, although I think that may have improved.

It does'nt matter wether an F100 or a bloody A380 could operate into BWI, its a closed charter, as per PBO and NWN, so who cares what a/c can land or t/off there until such times as said company wrestles the contract from NJS/QF

Skywest doing PER SYD, PER MEL, anyone want to put their hard earned on how long that will last ????

[Skystar320]

If Skywest are going to use the Airbus A320 erquipment on the Perth, Sydney, Melbourne sector they better play the cards right.

Those routes are in the very very high loadfactors and there is a huge demand for business class seats (Skywest losses out here) this is one of the reasons to why Qantas but on a 743 aircraft increase demand on both economy and business class seats.

If they play it right and have enough frequencies they might be able to pull this one off

[Brasilian Bird]

NJS and QF aren't the only ones who go/have been to Barrow or PBO. Smaller operators go there too...

And yes, i do know where Barrow Island is!

[dijon moutard]

have a look at where the current owners are based and operate from ; and that will give you one-hell-of-a-clue as to where the action will start.
it ain't east of perth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Icarus2001]

Certainly interesting times. What with Alliance about to start operating FIFO from Perth as well. One would hope Skywest have the sense to stick to the West and perhaps offshore North West, leave the stuff East of the rabbit proof fence, there be dragons.

One question. How on earth did Alliance beat Skywest with same equipment (F100) on the FIFO tender, did they simply buy the work with a low price as an entry to the market?

[dijon moutard]

in one word they bid so cheap it was ridiculous ; but the problem was they had lost the norfolk run and left with aircraft doing nothing !!!!
don't forget they(alliance) have the low gross weight f100's ; xr have high gross weight f100's with larger fuel tanks (which are harder to find and in big demand at the moment because of their flexibility).

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[Moniker]

they had lost the norfolk run and left with aircraft doing nothing HAHAHAHA

:bored: ummm, not quite

[international hog driver]

Star Europe in Germany has not been “made in three months”.

Earlier this year a company called AEROFLIGHT which was operating A320s went into voluntary suspension and STAR XL is made up of many of these people.

Aeroflight itself was the re-birth name of Aero Lloyd which has over 20 A320 series aircraft in 2002, when they went into liquidation the company was split up Aeroflight took some of the German contracts, Niki Lauda took the Austrian division and some 320’s to from NIKI once his non competition bond ran out with Austrian who had previously purchased his remaining shareholding in Lauda.

So essentially Star XL / Europe is a reactivation of an existing AOC with mostly the same staff and new owners who are well known in the aviation world. Three months is no big deal.


Now as to the other news, CaptiveVision Capital (CVC) holds 78.1 per cent of Skywest's voting stock.

Ok it is essentially a Singaporean Company, as such it now faces the rules laid down by the IASC the operating company that state that in order to be considered an Australian Airline for the operation of international flights under bi-lateral agreements in place the company must be Majority Australian Owned.

Given this fact I think we can rule out the Skywest = Air Paradise deal….

Who else DJ???

[skywest_xr]

BHP purchased the Leinster and Mt Keith mines from Western Mining.

Alliance and BHP already have a relationship, this is now just an extension of that relationship.

[alidad]

XR,
most decent people would not define paying a prostitute for services as a "relationship".

[Icarus2001]

So has anyone had an interview yet with Alliance for a Perth base, either cabin or tech crew?

[Led Zep]

I've heard unconfirmed rumours that Alliance F100 captain pay at PH is in the order of $83k, can anyone qualify?

[Capn Bloggs]

I've heard unconfirmed rumours that Alliance F100 captain pay at PH is in the order of $83k, can anyone qualify?

WHAT?? Talk about selling your souls...:yuk: If you want to work for slave labour pay, go to China.

I was hoping the race to the bottom might only involve Easterners...:{

[AN CSO]

Pilot interviews were held last week.

Flight Attendant Interviews were held a few weeks ago.

Figures I’ve been told regarding wages are, Capt: $102,000 - $110,000 base, plus an hourly rate per flight hour if you exceed a set monthly limit.
FO’s: $64,000 - $70,000 base, plus an hourly rate per flight hour if you exceed a set monthly limit.

Bond is 2 years.

[RENURPP]

I thought the POXstart guys were prostitutes, only to be out done by Skywest/Aliance. Grade III instrctors aren't much worse off.
UNBELIEVABLE, you will be sorry, the company or aviation in general will not remember you favourably.

[AN CSO]

If Virgin Blue go down the regional path I hear Captains will be on $105,000 and Fo's $60,000. If you join from outside you will be required to pay for your training.

OzJet pay their captains a flat rate of $120,000 and Fo's $70,000, zip, nothing else.

[Led Zep]

WHAT?? Talk about selling your souls...:yuk: If you want to work for slave labour pay, go to China.

I was hoping the race to the bottom might only involve Easterners...:{

Well, I might be wrong if AN CSO's figures are right. Again, this was a rumour that came up in a discussion I had with some "people in the know" and how they couldn't believe how much less Alliance pilots were getting next to those from Skywest, doing the same thing on the same equipment.

I hope these people in the know were wrong, I really do. :}

[Moniker]

I thought I heard that a pilot g/s starts sometime in Sept

17? F/A's presently in training, with another school to commence after that

the drivers are STILL negotiating their AWA - this has been underway for a loooong time, so perhaps the name calling could be kept to a minimum?

[Icarus2001]

Negotiating their AWA huh? That is a novel concept. Usually they just get slid across the desk towards you and you sign it if you want the job, don't sign it and walk away.:\

[Capn Bloggs]

Renurpp,

only to be out done by Skywest/Aliance

Don't Skypest earn more than us? :{

Moniker,
If that is the case, stick together lads and negotiate a good deal. The rest of us will love you for it!

[cunninglinguist]

Yes Bloggsy, I remember in the not too distant past a certain MDs favourite line was " industry standards " except when it came to our pay and conditions.:{
If Alliance get 200k PA I have a feeling it won't change goodwill Gs feelings.

[Icarus2001]

Looks like Alliance have pinched a couple from the Green operator and a couple from the Yellow and blue one.
70K plus allowances is correct for FO.

[cunninglinguist]

Allowances should be pretty good on the Mt Keith/Leinster run ;)

[Icarus2001]

Ho Ho Ho.

The allowances are for hours flown over either 60 or 65 per month, I cannot remember which. Around $125 per hour after that.

The interesting part about their move West is that if the contract gives them some capacity they are sure to use the opportunity to chase other FIFO work.

[dijon moutard]

Lets get back to the original post ; good luck to the alliance guys and gals !!!!!!!!!!

1st A320 arrives november 2006.


cheers
Dijon Moutard:ok:

[Skystar320]

Ummm there is no way that you can get an aircraft like that on there AOC even small aircraft like a 1900D takes up and over 6mths

[dijon moutard]

Skystar ordinarily yes you are right but there is provision under an existing rule to place a foreign aircraft on an Australian AOC on a temporary basis pending a full compliance with an Australian AOC.

it goes something like this :

aircraft must be appropriately registered overseas.

aircraft must have appropriately trained aircrew/engineers/flight attendants under an approved ICAO AOC.

aircraft must operate under that AOC and within its control and be registered under that AOC.

aircraft must be crewed/maintained and operated under that AOC (with all of the appropriate controls) whilst operating under the Australian AOC .

aircraft will be subject to strict supervision/control by both CASA and the appropriate JAA/Europrean authorities.

cheers
dijon moutard:ok:

[Ralph the Bong]

I heard that Skywest has been inundated with applications from guys in Vietnam, Europe and from Jetstar.

[alidad]

I wonder if the ex failed jet pilot from Skywest will put in an app- they must need a window cleaner for it.

[Skystar320]

huh ? = wanna explain

[dijon moutard]

Oh dear how cynical as a pilot group we have all become ; leave the past behind and let's all move on.

the gentlemen no longer has any connection with xr anymore ; and xr and it's employee's are concentrating on the future as we all should.

let's try and look on the positives in life ok !!!!!!!!

cheers
dijon moutard:ok:

[alidad]

Using the term "gentleman' infers a whole set of social and moral values that is not in keeping with the past conduct of the said person.

NUFF SAID

[cunninglinguist]

Skystar, you're waisting your breath, Skywest are going to do what no other operator I know of in OZ has ever done, so lets just re-visit this in November.

If an 320 turns up in PH next month with the Skywest tail ( a minimum for route proving if nothing else ) I will humbly eat my words:cool:

[dijon moutard]

how big a hat do you want to eat ; with or without extra straw !!!!!!!!

cheers
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