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Old 29th Jul 2003, 20:54
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On a different note, wasn't the non-stop service between LPL and STN successful? I believe it had virtually full loads, although it ceased after a relatively short time. Does anyone know why?

WWW - I flew AGP-BRS last summer and I'm quite sure it was virtually full.

Cheers for offering a good service.
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I believe the LPL - LUT service had a lot to do with LPL being a new base and they were feryying aircraft to and from it out of LPL. Someone had the bright idea of offering the empty ferry seats for sale and they found they sold really well.

After a time LPL became properly established with its own aircraft so the route was cancelled.

Thats what I've been told but it could be an old wives tale.

I do have a hunch though that more domestic pairings would pay. The road and rail network is now so grindingly bad that I get the impression regional domestic flying is on the up.

BRS to LPL for example takes over 5 hours of hard driving any time of the week or over £100 to the train companies. Probably not a big enough route for a lo-co 737 operations but the turboprop commuter airlines should be doing very nicely these days. Doesn't seem to be happening though.

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Old 29th Jul 2003, 22:39
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Thanks, WWW.

Do you know what the loads were like on U2's LPL-LTN-LPL service?
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I'm sure dwlpl will correct me but I thought it was because they claimed they could use the aircraft more profitably doing other routes even though loadings were high.
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Ah fame/infamy at last!


Ringwayman: I'm sure dwlpl will correct me but I thought it was because they claimed they could use the aircraft more profitably doing other routes even though loadings were high
WWW: I believe the LPL - LUT service had a lot to do with LPL being a new base and they were feryying aircraft to and from it out of LPL. Someone had the bright idea of offering the empty ferry seats for sale and they found they sold really well.
The reason easyJet gave at the time (must be the first time Ringwayman and myself agree on this BB) was that they could make more money flying other routes from Liverpool other than the Liverpool/Luton service.

The aircraft swaps by easyJet between its Liverpool and Luton bases brought into being the LPL/LTN route and it was started on 1st October 1999 and was ended on 24th March 2001. In the last 15 months of its 18 month life span the route carried 246,575 pax. A very good total I think you will agree. There were no more than 21 return flights per week. The routes that they flew more rotations on after the demise of the LPL/LTN service where to Amsterdam, Malaga, Palma and Belfast Int. Indeed the Liverpool to Belfast Int route is now the best (and sixth best overall) non-London domestic route for passengers carried annually. The route uplifted 544,801 passengers in 2002 and so far this year is carrying 29% more passengers than last year.

As for based aircraft, easyJet first based one aircraft at Liverpool in the winter of 1998. They currently have seven based 737's at Liverpool Airport.

Moving onto domestic routes. Liverpool has currently NO domestic mainland routes. An appalling fact in itself but when you consider that the train service from the city is disgraceful it makes matters even worse!

Things re domestic air service wise, I believe, will resolve itself to some degree sooner rather than later.

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