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Old 23rd Nov 2022, 23:49
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They can't use an Aer Lingus mainline aircraft for a month to cover? That's quite a harsh interpretation of the rules?
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 02:22
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Originally Posted by HOVIS
The aircraft is on a C check in January. No replacement aircraft available until March when EIDY returns.
The EI31 MAN-BGI is still showing as operating though !?
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 11:36
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
They can't use an Aer Lingus mainline aircraft for a month to cover? That's quite a harsh interpretation of the rules?
It's something to do with Aer Lingus already sub contracting BA aircraft on the LHR-BHD service, I think. I'm not sure it's all very complicated.
EDIT. Found this...

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/a...eadmore-target
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 16:39
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Quick update....called EI to rebook and they tell me now over the phone my MAN - MCO is not cancelled at all, depsite what the emails I received said.

The flight has been rescheduled which caused the automatic emails to be sent !! The flight was supposed to arrive in MCO at 1551 and now it is 1550 !! I kid you not...

That said I still have nothing in wrting to reverse the the writen cancellation I have, so I am still a little sceptical, more so that people on here seem to know that the a/c is in C check late jan - with no cover.

I cannot access my online booking ( says call customer service ) but was told the new scheduled flight, all of 1 minute earlier that the original schedule, will be uploaded soon and I'll be able to access my booking so I can see in writing the flight isnt cancelled.

What a mess...

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Old 24th Nov 2022, 20:22
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Subbing in an EI reg to cover is not simple, it's not directly related to the BHD operation but that does show the issue. BHD-LHR operates under Aer Lingus UK, but can't use an EI aircraft for the same reason ...

As a result of Brexit, any EU operator doesn't have auto rights in the UK, certainly after 31 Dec this year. So, the EI aircraft can't be operated the UK based crew, which means it needs to be an ACMI. UK law says you should source ACMI from within the state, and only then go outside the state .. that is the complication of using EI reg aircraft ...

As for the cancellation thats not ... thats the ancient IT for you ...
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 20:37
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Originally Posted by cumbrianboy
Subbing in an EI reg to cover is not simple, it's not directly related to the BHD operation but that does show the issue. BHD-LHR operates under Aer Lingus UK, but can't use an EI aircraft for the same reason ...

As a result of Brexit, any EU operator doesn't have auto rights in the UK, certainly after 31 Dec this year. So, the EI aircraft can't be operated the UK based crew, which means it needs to be an ACMI. UK law says you should source ACMI from within the state, and only then go outside the state .. that is the complication of using EI reg aircraft ...

As for the cancellation thats not ... thats the ancient IT for you ...
Time to give Air Tanker a call and see what they might have available as cover.
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Old 24th Nov 2022, 21:21
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Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving. 🙄
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Old 25th Nov 2022, 13:51
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Couldn't make this up...still can access online booking so I can see the flight isnt cancelled as the emails told me...so I've called back and guess what...flights are cancelled ! The sales guy yesterday was adamant the flight was operating and I didnt need further confirmation...good job I didnt take his word for it and turn up at Manchester !
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Old 25th Nov 2022, 22:38
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Grrr

Originally Posted by HOVIS
Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving. 🙄
Well Aer Lingus knew what the rules would be and still opened a UK post Brexit, so I am sure whatever gift you allude to, was well received.
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Old 26th Nov 2022, 12:47
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Well Aer Lingus knew what the rules would be and still opened a UK post Brexit, so I am sure whatever gift you allude to, was well received.
They had to start a new airline, with its own AOC, CAMO, UK registered aircraft, crew etc.
If Brexit hadn't happened or at least if the UK had stayed under the umbrella of EASA (which is what absolutely everyone expected to happen), then EI could have just used their own set up as they had done in the past. Substituting an aircraft for one that had gone tech would not have been an issue.
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