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Old 1st May 2024, 12:20
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Originally Posted by ajamieson
Interesting that they do not appear to be considering a sale of the site, which would almost certainly result in purchase by a developer who would permanently close it and build on it, be it houses or business facilities like at DSA. This seems to be a way of offloading it without losing the airport as a strategic asset.
So glad they spent the 10 million on the plan by expensive consultants a few years back and kicked out the aviation museum plus the million or so given to Virgin
Shows money well spent.
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The CAA stats for March make interesting reading. Newquay has moved ahead of both Norwich and Exeter for the year ended March’ 24. The short sectors that Ryanair have added: Stansted, Edinburgh, and Dublin have massively helped to close the gap on those two. There can’t be too many small regional airports in the UK where destination traffic is just as strong as originating.Good to see that Zürich is already on sale for next year with an earlier start date in April. I’m sure that Newquay could replicate the success. KLM have had in Inverness. You can, but hope…….
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"There can’t be too many small regional airports in the UK where destination traffic is just as strong as originating."

there's little choice - if you decide to fly down you'll fly back - if you drive or train the same applies
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Old 27th May 2024, 17:02
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Originally Posted by toon22
The CAA stats for March make interesting reading. Newquay has moved ahead of both Norwich and Exeter for the year ended March’ 24. The short sectors that Ryanair have added: Stansted, Edinburgh, and Dublin have massively helped to close the gap on those two. There can’t be too many small regional airports in the UK where destination traffic is just as strong as originating.Good to see that Zürich is already on sale for next year with an earlier start date in April. I’m sure that Newquay could replicate the success. KLM have had in Inverness. You can, but hope…….
If you go back to 2015 even Sumburgh was beating Newquay. Chart below shows passengers for first quarter of each year.


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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"There can’t be too many small regional airports in the UK where destination traffic is just as strong as originating."

there's little choice - if you decide to fly down you'll fly back - if you drive or train the same applies
I think the point made was that NQY, unlike most UK regionals is a destination for inbound traffic rather than a gateway used by local people to escape such as is the case with the likes of BHX, EMA, LBA, NCL, LPL etc.
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Old 27th May 2024, 20:35
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Why is NQY/LGW still a PSO route, the fares don't reflect any discount I and several of my neighbours still drive to LGW or LHR because it is much cheaper?
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Why is NQY/LGW still a PSO route, the fares don't reflect any discount I and several of my neighbours still drive to LGW or LHR because it is much cheaper?
PSO routes aren't there to make things cheaper for the customer but to provide a service that, allegedly, wouldn't be economically viable for an airline to fly if the subsidies/charge reductions weren't there and are seen as a necessary link between the regions being supported that wouldn't be there if the underpinning wasn't in place.

That's the theory, anyway!
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Old 28th May 2024, 08:26
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I stand to be corrected but if you go as far back as when BA dropped flying domestically NQY/LGW was the only profitable route they had. I fully understand why PSO routes are allocated, just have serious doubts NQY/LGW needs to be one of them.
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Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG
I stand to be corrected but if you go as far back as when BA dropped flying domestically NQY/LGW was the only profitable route they had. I fully understand why PSO routes are allocated, just have serious doubts NQY/LGW needs to be one of them.
When they did a B737-500 season in 2008? Or the COVID summer season? Do you mean that all of the other BA domestics are money losers?
Oh wait you mean BA CONNECT?
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Old 28th May 2024, 14:48
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No I mean WAY back, long before any of the above, don't remember the exact dates but would have been around 1970's or 1980's.
Unfortunately those of us old enough to remember are now forgetting anyway through natural processes.
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Old 28th May 2024, 22:21
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Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG
No I mean WAY back, long before any of the above, don't remember the exact dates but would have been around 1970's or 1980's.
Unfortunately those of us old enough to remember are now forgetting anyway through natural processes.
WOW! I didn't even know BA had served NQY back then, I would guess Viscounts?
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
WOW! I didn't even know BA had served NQY back then, I would guess Viscounts?
I'm not sure that BA or BEA before them ever flew to Newquay. Of course the current day British Airways have previously operated to NQY.

British Eagle Airways in the sixties flew to Newquay from Birmingham, Glasgow and London Heathrow with Viscounts.

EG093 LHR 09.30 NQY 10.45 Saturday only
EG094 NQY 19.45 LHR 21.00 Saturday only

British Eagle Airways operated the same aircraft to Birmingham and Glasgow before returning to Newquay in the evening for the flight back to London.

British Midland Airways replaced British Eagle Airways after the latter's collapse in 1968. British Midland Airways operated Viscounts from LHR to NQY.

British Midland Airways ceased LHR to NQY and was replaced by Brymon Airways in January 1977. Brymon Airways flew the route with a Dart Herald which was leased from British Midland Airways.

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Old 29th May 2024, 19:44
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It would have been Brymon who operated their aircraft in BA colours from Newquay.
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Old 29th May 2024, 20:11
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Originally Posted by EGTE
It would have been Brymon who operated their aircraft in BA colours from Newquay.
I hadn't mentioned Brymon who operated their aircraft in BA colours from Newquay due to the fact that the original post quoted the 1970s/80s. It wasn't until 1993 that British Airways purchased Brymon Airways and began operating as a British Airways Express franchise brand carrier.
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[QUOTE=Sotonsean;11665170]

British Eagle International Airways in the sixties flew to Newquay from Birmingham, Glasgow and London Heathrow with Viscounts, and their Britannias...
British Midland Airways took over the route from British Eagle after their collapse in 1968. BD operated Viscounts from LHR to NQY.
British Midland ceased LHR to NQY and was replaced by Brymon Airways in January 1977.
Brymon flew the route with a HP Dart Herald G-ATIG twice daily at early morning and evening peak times, until the new Dash-7's took over around 1980, and then the NQY service also ran via PLH or EXT and with an added lunch time service.
Quite a few passengers during the holiday periods interlined at PLH or NQY for onward flights to St. Marys ISC.

If the weather was bad at NQY and the evening flight could not operate, we would often put the Brymon passengers on the Night Sleeper train from Paddington.
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Old 30th May 2024, 21:08
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I remember the B Eagle Britannias operating Glasgow/Renfrew to Newquay in the 60's, I think once a week on Saturdays during summer using a different small terminal to other passenger flights.
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With plenty of surface connections some not taking much longer than getting to NQY, parking,check in,flight, get out of airport the question still remains why is it a pso route?
In an ideal world it would be much better for connecting if there were smaller aeroplanes with more frequency but I see no way that could ever happen.
I and many I know like me will continue to connect transatlantic especially by either going to LGW by alternative means or flying over DUB.
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Old 31st May 2024, 14:18
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"There can’t be too many small regional airports in the UK where destination traffic is just as strong as originating."

there's little choice - if you decide to fly down you'll fly back - if you drive or train the same applies
I'm not sure why someone who flew down couldn't get the train back or vice versa if the price/schedule was better?
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Old 31st May 2024, 15:20
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Originally Posted by bravoromeosierra
I'm not sure why someone who flew down couldn't get the train back or vice versa if the price/schedule was better?
They do. I went to university in Cornwall and many of us did train/plane/car/coach one way and then an alternative another depending on price and timings.
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Well if you went to Falmouth you have a horrible trip by public transport to/from Newquay
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