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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 06:33
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN
I wouldn't rise to it. SWBKCB has a tendency to pick at isolated statements completely out of context and put an ill mannered response to it with no further contribution, often missing or ignoring the point entirely. I've just learnt to ignore them.

This is one I think we can all just draw our own conclusions for now. Time will tell if any of this comes to anything.
Oh dear, I was quesrying the comment "FlyDubai have already indicated they will take over Newcastle from Emirates due to the lack of premium passengers on the route". There is a world of difference between that and a speculative article on Simple Flying.
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MASSIVE rumour for our airport from some fairly senior people at Emirates that BOH will be on the their route map in winter 2025!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope to god this is real. Would be completely transformational for the airport.
So what happened to your massive rumour a few months ago that easyjet were announcing a new base at SOU?
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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 08:26
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So what happened to your massive rumour a few months ago that easyjet were announcing a new base at SOU?
SEN won that battle
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
SEN won that battle
That implies SOU was being seriously considered as a base. To the very best of my knowledge, it was not. Likewise there is one new easyJet base still likely for S25 but that will not be a “battle” involving Southampton either.
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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 14:42
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Apologies for not reading your original post about EK properly, but I was genuinely interested in where the FlyDubai comment came from - to be honest the 787 suggestion makes some sense, but it seems to be jounalistic speculation rather than sourced from FlyDubai.
FlyDubai (FZ) and Emirates have the same owner, the FlyDubai model is now to serve the Emirates hub waves from airports not served by EK, or where additional capacity is needed above what EK can support. I attended a meeting with the FlyDubai top Management in Dubai late last year and asked where the B789 would be used. Thicker routes to India and within the Middle East region was the answer. I was surprised to see the FZ CEO talk about Europe earlier this year, but its not a pipe dream, it will probably happen..

For context, the EK CEO has said many times including this year that the UK is its strongest market with most consistent demand, but slots are not available at UK airports that fit with the DXB hub waves. These waves drive aircraft leaving UK airports - LHR, LGW, STN BHX and MAN etc at about the same time headed to DXB. For EK to add capacity, more of those similarly timed slots at existing airports, or more airports are required. The other issue that EK has is that the A380 are to be replaced over the next 15 years with smaller aircraft (B777X, A350), some 380 have already been retired - delivering growth at EK will need more slots and more airports in the UK, thats just to maintain even the existing pax levels.

Slots with the right times are just not available at the larger UK airports, although MAN and STN have a little scope. And the European hubs are seeing pressure to reduce flying (AMS, FRA etc). So what next?

These UK slot capacity limits apply to all the carriers serving the super hubs from UK (DXB, IST, DOH), its inevitable that EK, TK QR will expand their footprint in UK, and because only smaller airports are available (BRS, LPL, CWL, BOH), these are likely to see some related growth. Its equally likely that these airports will need smaller aircraft - rather than the A380, B777X etc. so the smaller gauge fleets of FlyDubai (a proxy for EK) as well as TK and QR can be expected to be more present in UK regions as time progresses.

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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 17:02
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Very well put Flitefone
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