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Old 30th Jun 2024, 20:10
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Seems European have added a new regular route to another Chinese destination, Urumqi
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 08:36
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Originally Posted by BOHskies
Seems European have added a new regular route to another Chinese destination, Urumqi
Is this info from FLIGHTRADAR? There seems to be many spurious departures and arrivals for EUROPEAN, several a day including XI'AN etc ..... Fingers crossed though that we do have more .....
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 10:59
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The days of airports newly given 24 hour operations are long gone and will be opposed strongly by environmentalists and neighbours alike. Quite rightly in my opinion for those that live close by as there is no real justification for it nowadays.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 11:12
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Originally Posted by mrshubigbus
Yet another Bournemouth night time divert! Bournemouth must go 24 hours!!!
Saturday night’s Ryanair PMI flight was forced to divert to Bristol just 40 minutes after two very delayed TUI’s were allowed in at 1.00am on Sunday morning. However, 40 minutes later, the airport were unable to accept the very delayed RYR flight which went instead to Bristol. Worst still, those passengers were then forced to make their own arrangements to get home unless a coach was organised, not arriving back to Bournemouth until some stupid time on Sunday morning. Yet worse was yet to come as the Sunday morning FAO was cancelled leaving a further 180 passengers in complete limbo! Most would have turned up at the airport “during the night” only to be told the very bad news before turning around and going home at “silly O clock” in the morning! In total 360 pax were very “pissed off” and probably won’t fly Ryanair again. Not RYR’s fault in this case but an airport that won’t go 24 hours with an increasing number of holiday flights that aren’t scheduled to return until very close to the night time closure of the airport. What with the regular and predictable summer delays, they must correct this very stupid policy or risk loosing yet more passengers to other airports as a direct result of an ever growing number of very costly diversions! With Jet2 arriving next year, the airport simply has to go 24 hour or risk loosing these airlines! Flying to holiday destinations and squeezing in two rotations a day means that BOH have two very simple choices. Risk loosing these carriers or do the sensible thing! This can’t go on!
Air Traffic Controllers have very strict working practices and can not just extend their working period. There is also a shortage of Air Traffic Controllers.

The passengers for the morning flights would/should have been notified via text/email of the disruption and l'm sure would still prefer to fly locally.

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Old 1st Jul 2024, 11:20
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Originally Posted by mrshubigbus
With Jet2 arriving next year, the airport simply has to go 24 hour or risk loosing these airlines! Flying to holiday destinations and squeezing in two rotations a day means that BOH have two very simple choices. Risk loosing these carriers or do the sensible thing! This can’t go on!
I think if you look at the flight times for Jet2, they aren't operating any later than any of the existing airlines already based. Odd delays will inevitably happen, as has happened to you, however putting on a full 24hr operation just to allow for the potential of a delay here and there during the summer season is completely ridiculous (unless of course you are happy to fund this yourself) You are blaming BOH and RYN for all this, when in actual fact the delay was most likely caused at the PMI end who have had notorious issues the past few weeks.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 15:56
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MASSIVE rumour for our airport from some fairly senior people at Emirates that BOH will be on the their route map in winter 2025!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope to god this is real. Would be completely transformational for the airport.
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
MASSIVE rumour for our airport from some fairly senior people at Emirates that BOH will be on the their route map in winter 2025!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope to god this is real. Would be completely transformational for the airport.
Totally unrealistic & complete garbage.

I honestly can’t see a B777 or A380 being squeezed into Bournemouth (runway & apron being a significant factor). In addition, Emirates would likely only operate to Dubai (which I can’t see the demand being that high along the South Coast). Furthermore, the ground facilities & terminal facilities are totally inadequate for Emirates.

In my opinion, BOH will only ever serve LCC.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 16:18
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Who says it's passenger flights?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Who says it's passenger flights?
I honestly don’t think BOH has the current capacity for additional cargo operators of that size. I understand that cargo development is planned, however personally believe the airport will prioritise passenger facing developments due to the commitment of Jet2.

European have already announced that there will be 3 additional freight A340s operating out of Bournemouth by November 24. It’ll be tight enough with one operator with this number of aircraft - unless of course European commits to a second base within the UK.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 17:15
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I honestly don’t think BOH has the current capacity for additional cargo operators of that size.
And you think it does for an Emirates pax service?!?
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And you think it does for an Emirates pax service?!?
Perhaps read my 1609 post where I clearly state my opinion on Emirates PAX service from BOH.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 19:13
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
MASSIVE rumour for our airport from some fairly senior people at Emirates that BOH will be on the their route map in winter 2025!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope to god this is real. Would be completely transformational for the airport.
Whilst an incredible rumour but its utter fantasy at the moment and a rumour that’s completely unsupported and completely false unless you have inside information and knowledge

Bournemouth is in the process of accepting Jet 2 into their home and the terminal and facilities are about to open up and expand accordingly and what a great position to be in to be able to handle that

Let’s concentrate on BOH having 6 aircraft based and the correct infrastructure to accommodate this first , this is a priority for the airport and they know it and this will begin very soon
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 19:55
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FlyDubai

I was quick to dismiss the Dubai rumour but then I thought...

FlyDubaI currently has 55 MAX8 and 3 MAX9 aircraft, but have a massive further 69 and 67 on order respectively. They are going to need routes to fill those aircraft.

FlyDubai have already indicated they will take over Newcastle from Emirates due to the lack of premium passengers on the route.

Irishshamrock is sharing on the Emirates thread of rumours of expansion to Liverpool, Belfast and Bournemouth, and I would suggest all are perfect for a LCC FlyDubai 737, as is Bristol, and all are well within reach of the aircraft.

So maybe, just maybe, we will see a Dubai route... just not with Emirates itself.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 20:10
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FlyDubai have already indicated they will take over Newcastle from Emirates due to the lack of premium passengers on the route.
Have they? About 20,000 pax and 500t of cargo a month on the DXB route from NCL. Some going on a MAX
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 20:17
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Have they? About 20,000 pax and 500t of cargo a month on the DXB route from NCL. Some going on a MAX
They have 789s coming as well - quote:
"Switching less premium destinations from Emirates, such as Clark, Cebu, Durban, Montreal, and Newcastle, allowing aircraft to be redeployed"

​​​​However (not that I'm suggesting it's their plan as per above) as your tone was belittling, I'm sure with your good maths you'll realise it's only a double daily 737 flight to meet that passenger demand.

I will never understand why every response on here requires negativity.

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Old 1st Jul 2024, 20:23
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Right, so 787's not 737's - is your source the Simple Flying article? If so that a journalist speculating ("While I am gazing at a crystal ball"), not an indication from Fly Dubai.
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Right, so 787's not 737's - is your source the Simple Flying article? If so that a journalist speculating ("While I am gazing at a crystal ball"), not an indication from Fly Dubai.
Again, belittling. Not sure why you have such a negative attitude to something you literally do not know the answer to - unless ofcourse you do and wish to share.

I have provided some reasoning behind my thoughts below, about a rumour, yet here we are with you dismissing it out of hand.

Thanks for reminding me why I left this forum.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 20:56
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Apologies for not reading your original post about EK properly, but I was genuinely interested in where the FlyDubai comment came from - to be honest the 787 suggestion makes some sense, but it seems to be jounalistic speculation rather than sourced from FlyDubai.
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Old 1st Jul 2024, 21:41
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Originally Posted by BOHskies
Again, belittling. Not sure why you have such a negative attitude to something you literally do not know the answer to - unless ofcourse you do and wish to share.

I have provided some reasoning behind my thoughts below, about a rumour, yet here we are with you dismissing it out of hand.

Thanks for reminding me why I left this forum.
I wouldn't rise to it. SWBKCB has a tendency to pick at isolated statements completely out of context and put an ill mannered response to it with no further contribution, often missing or ignoring the point entirely. I've just learnt to ignore them.

This is one I think we can all just draw our own conclusions for now. Time will tell if any of this comes to anything.
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Old 2nd Jul 2024, 05:49
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The Simple Flying article is a guess from last year. Biz class from NCL is regularly quite full, don't see it changing to FlyDubai ops
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