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Old 1st Sep 2012, 20:53
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from germania web site. mon 3/9/12 st 2424 erfurt-SEN arrive 06.30.Tue 4/9/12 st 2424 SEN-LTN dpt 06.30.TUE 4/9/12 ST2425 LTN-Berlin TXL dpt 08.15 any one know what this is about?
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 11:42
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perhaps in for maintenance....same flt no and out..then a charter to Berlin from Luton? dunno....tell me tomorrow!
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 07:06
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There are two Germania 737s on terminal stands this morning so presumably both operating revenue flights from SEN today. I don't know if that helps answer your question at all.

Update Edit: One of the 737s was an inbound pax charter from Erfurt with four coaches taking the pax to their UK destination. The other operated the normal Ford charter to CGN.

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Old 4th Sep 2012, 15:27
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Looks like we might be hearing something more concrete about this new route, front cover of local paper 'Echo' carrying story about flights to Germany.
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 15:35
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Seems the article is dated for tomorrow, Wed 5th September !
Southend Airport to start German flights (From Echo)
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 16:01
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and I had just kicked their ass (The Evening Echo) because they never reply to emails from the newsroom, and I wanted them to promote the new service(s) to the local people, like they are over here in Germany. Dresden is not confirmed yet by OLT.
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 16:44
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You will have to spoon feed them to make sure they get their facts right. Even then it's a 'maybe'.
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 17:03
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They remind me of Debonair who operated jets on thin routes. They came and they went and are now almost forgotten
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Obviously OLT Express Germany are trying to effectively utilise the seven Contact Air F100s and I would think that DRS-SEN needs jet equipment if it is going to attract high yield business travellers. SCN-SEN could probably be equally well served by a 50-seater such as the Saab 2000, but the F100 will be again be more attractive to potential passengers.

It will certainly be interesting to see how it goes and the short marketing period before launch might mean a rather slow start. I cannot currently find an English language reservation facility for the SCN-SEN route on their website and that needs to be provided.
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LTNman may have a point about jets on thin routes but the comparison with Debonair looks a bit stretched. OLT after all have been in business since 1958. Its present owners formerly owned VLM so they are not exactly inexperienced in this line of operations . Even so their plans all look somewhat ambitious at present.

In addition to an English language page on the website one would have thought a French page would be essential taking into consideration the likely SCN catchment area.
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I'm not sure about the Debonair comparison. Didn't Debonair try to provide a full cabin service at a budget fare, using thirsty 146s? Are OLT Express trying to do the same? Debonair were in competition with EZY on some routes from LTN weren't they? Did they go bust, or were they taken over.....?

Fokker 100s should be more economical than the 146s, but I'll be surprised if they can fill them. On the otherhand maybe the good burghers of Saarbrucken are keen to visit London in great numbers, or perhaps they are keen to view the longest pleasure pier in the world...........
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 08:44
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There is also a large Ford Factory ar Saarlouis, that will generate some traffic with Ford people that travel to/from the UK side.
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It won't generate THAT much.......
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 12:09
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The DRS-SEN route is now bookable on the OLT Express Germany website at 49 Euros one-way. They tell me that they will soon have an English website, the current one being only in German.
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I am pleased to see that there will be daily flights Dresden-SEN-Dresden. Weekdays ARR SEN 1045, dep 1115, Saturdays ARR SEN 0720, dep 0750, and Sundays ARR SEN 1420, dep 1450. Good luck to everybody.
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 16:17
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Dresden flights

start date 15th OCTOBER.
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 16:59
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Does anyone know the minimum airport check-in time for OLT flights from Southend ?
Yes, I know that OLT offers online check-in, but it's not unknown when an airline starts operating at a new airport, that online check-in has a few glitches requiring manual check-in at an airport counter.
Yes, they may be the Germans with their famous efficiency, but if they can screw up on Berlin's new airport...
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 17:05
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Their website does not say the check-in times criteria, but safe to say 45 minutes would be the normal.
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Easyjet summer 2013 flights on the booking system. no surprises as yet. similar timetable Bcn not operating on Wednesday to make way for Vienna flight. jersey looks 3 x weekly next summer.
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I would have thought that such a route would need to be operated twice daily, morning and evening, to attract the appropriate clientel.

Dresden ... Not heard of that as being a particular tourist attraction nor red light hotspot, perhaps a F100 size business route but, I would have thought, needs morning and evening services to establish that.
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