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Old 23rd Jun 2013, 11:36
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It's also cheaper to fly KLM from NCL than it is from MME due to the competition on the route at NCL. This can't be helping the numbers at MME.
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Old 23rd Jun 2013, 15:41
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Please this is becoming embarrassing!!

When Airtours moved lock stock and barrel to Teesside long haul inc, travel agents were offered double commission to book from Teesside and still couldn't turn people away from NCL!! I remember the posters all over Sunderland telling me Teesside was my local airport!! Then the horror stories of friends being duped to fly from MME as no other flights existed from NCL!! Never mind the people who got lost trying to get there!!

Travel agents are probably used to the much larger amount of holidays available from NCL and so go there first??

Plus how many people use travel agents these days?? Does NCL make people not press the Teesside button??
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Old 23rd Jun 2013, 19:54
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Doesn't really matter how much a travel agent gets if there are no routes to offer. Do NCL charge a £6 fee to use their airport?
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Old 23rd Jun 2013, 22:36
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Well said
Looking forward then the £6 fee has to come off if DTV have any hope in attracting Loco's, & travel agents can't sell services to destinations that don't exist
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Old 23rd Jun 2013, 22:49
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Would have thought people would be rather more concerned about a sustained wholesale shift by the local population away from DTV in favour of Newcastle on Aberdeen, Amsterdam and Palma...
In effect, DTV is now so weak and sickly that Newcastle is now nibbling away at the healthy bits of DTV carcass as part of its lunch.

If market share in NE England cannot be retained on the major existing routes, particularly Amsterdam, then you can forget any new locos

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Old 25th Jun 2013, 19:01
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Bagby

According to this newspaper article Bagby which is down the road from DTV have been doing very well in movements.
If the numbers are cut after Mr Pickles lot have their say it may benefit DTV, but will they all have to pay a £6 charge as well?
Inquiry into controversial airfield resumes as FoI request reveals council has spent nearly £50k on the process (From The Northern Echo)

Knowing Peel they will probably charge £12
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 19:52
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Members of the committee ask questions. Peel walk out of meeting.

26th June 2013 Question, "Peel what have you done at DTV?"

Peel answer, "Not a lot"

Questions asked of Durham Tees Valley airport executives (From The Northern Echo)

Peter Foster the ex duty officer and member of the local council reps stated that the only movements were caravans.

Mr Foulds left the meeting halfway through

Not much respect there then.
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 19:53
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Questions asked of Durham Tees Valley airport executives (From The Northern Echo)

"...Andy Foulds, commercial director at Peel Airports, revealed that DTV planned to trial flights to Bulgaria for one month in August 2014..."

and the caravans are back...

“There is more advertising about those caravans all around Darlington and Durham, saying ‘come and park your caravan at the airport’ than there is about flights.”
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 20:10
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Mr Foulds left the meeting halfway through

Not much respect there then.
Agreed - I wonder what else was so important?
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 21:40
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I highly doubt he ignorantly up and left the meeting because he doesn't like the way it was going, for all you know he might have had a meeting with an airline to go to!

Chances are, he did in fact have somewhere more important to be.
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 21:48
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Or he didnt like the committee's questions and had a caravan owner to meet.
I hope the press can ask the questions that the committee didnt get answers on. I wonder if he will walk out on them as well?
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What sort of business man organises two meetings which overlap? More like the questions were too hard hitting. Peel have been a failure or were they wise and want to shut the place and reap the money for the land?
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 00:56
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The sort of businessman who perhaps has no choice because of the second parties commitments?

You're all being a little harsh, Peel earn their criticism at the best of times but there's easily more than one reasonable explanation for him having to leave!
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 05:04
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Whether he didn't like the way the meeting was going or not, its now been reported that he was unable to answer questions from a significant shareholder and representatives of his customers as he left the meeting early.

Poor show.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 08:03
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Yada yada yada...... None of you were at the meeting and are simply taking what a reporter wrote as the whole and full account.

I was there! Andy Foulds stepped in to attend the meeting when the original person couldn't make it due to other, more important commitments.
Andy advised at before the start of the would have to leave the meeting at approx 1pm to attend other more important meetings.

The meeting started at 12 noon, so there was ample time for anyone to ask questions and receive answers.

The questions were raised after Andy Foulds had left the meeting. He did not get up and walk out of the meeting because of any questions being asked.

The committee decided that questions would be put in writing to the airport to achieve a written response.

Members of the public are allowed to come and observe the meeting, so next time, why not go and observe the meeting and get the full facts rather than relying on what a biased reporter has written in the local rag.

By the way, the questions being raised were mostly answered at the meeting by others. They simply wanted a written response from Peel.

Please do remember that some people have their own hidden agenda!!

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Old 28th Jun 2013, 12:04
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Important Peel people?

So the first important Peel person failed to show so Mr Foulds stepped in but fails to stay the course.

It just shows why airlines dont want to know Peel. Total lack of respect for the council reps or the shareholders who sold DTV to Peel for £500k. Still cant believe that price!

Shame you couldnt answer the questions for Peel if you where at the meeting papa oscar. Did Mr Fould expect the questions to be asked later in the meeting? is that what normally occurs. I seem to remember that Peel didnt give any answers at a previous council meeting which was in the Echo.

Out of interest, were Peel the only company Hugh put forward as prospective buyers as I have since heard that other companies were rejected out of hand by Hugh and Hugh alone.
It smells a bit to me
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 17:22
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I've always found the Northern Echo to be un-critical of DTVA. Presumably the DTVA PR office will be swinging into action to correct the impression that's been given.

And is the original person who couldn't make it due to other, more important commitments the same one who is constantly prompting the local community to rally around the airport?
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 18:55
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Beafer, why would I answer the questions asked to Peel. I don't work for them.

SWBKCB, no.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 19:10
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DTV Accounts and is this the same George?

£19m in the kitty according to latest DTV accounts.
Caravans will make it 20m next year

Had a look at the important people who may have not turned up at the important meeting and noticed a George Dunning who is a director!

Is this the same George D who is also the head of redcar and cleveland council???
Accounts and all directors.
DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT LIMITED of M17 8PL in MANCHESTER ENGLAND
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 19:30
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Wonder what goes on in these meetings. Might pop along to the next one. Anyone know how we find out when and where it is.

Looking at your link Northbound, it seems that each of the councils that have shares in the airport have a nominated person as the shareholder/director as most on there are councillors. They seem to change on a regular basis.

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