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Old 13th Oct 2009, 22:37
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Indeed and it seems like none of the erstwhile board bothered to do any comprehensive background or financial checks. Can't believe anyone was taken in by it for a moment.
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Old 13th Oct 2009, 22:47
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If you are out of work and it would appear that all of the startup team were and someone offers you maybe £60,000 a year and shares in a future company wouldn't you give it a whirl?
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No, because it doesn't look good on your CV that you were naive enough to be taken in by such a load of bunkum without checking it out in a professional manner.
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Any industry person with half a brain cell would immediately dismiss this as nonsense based on the initial plan.

A 44-seat (!!) 737-300 service which routes via LHR (where are they going to get the slots from?) and then attempts to get into LCY - well I would love to be there for the inaugural "landing" - is never really going to look serious is it!
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I would have thought that most people, especially pros would be aware that a 737 cannot land at LCY.
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 18:10
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You might get a 737 into LCY, but you won't get it out unless it's on a barge!!!
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just to show journalists can serve a purpose...

Victor]Victor Bassey - The truth behind the airline entrepreneur (From The Northern Echo) Bassey - The truth behind the airline entrepreneur (From The Northern Echo)
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 21:06
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Blimey, this man is unbelievable. starts to make you wonder if he is here legit. Next thing you know, immigration will be on his back.
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I think that if you were more informed, you would know that the 737 was never a realistic offer. it was mentioned in some early PR stunt to create publicity. With regard to checks on the founder - Victor Bassey, be assured that many involved did " searches" but with no positive - or negative feedback. Go with the flow was the attitude until the tide turned, which it did. Regardless of some of the comments posted there were some well meaning and talented people involved some of which were burnt both financially as well as emotionally.
The motive behind the scam - only one person can answer that and he isnt talking!
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FYI

A development...

BREAKING NEWS: Airline chief arrested on fraud allegation (From The Northern Echo)
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Old 23rd Oct 2009, 15:56
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From the BBC

The owner of an airline company has been arrested on suspicion of fraud
Excelsis Airlines, set up by Victor Bassey, planned to resume commercial flights between Durham Tees Valley Airport and London.
Earlier in October the entire board of the company resigned, claiming they had not been paid.
Cleveland Police confirmed on Friday that detectives from the fraud investigation team were questioning 49-year-old Mr Bassey.
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Old 23rd Oct 2009, 22:38
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I think that if you were more informed, you would know that the 737 was never a realistic offer
It was called into question the instant it was posted I believe, nobody took that seriously. Departures in a 737 from LCY are by barge.

many involved did " searches" but with no positive - or negative feedback
Can't have searched too hard as most of the information is there if you just look. Anyone taking a "go with the flow" attitude trying to run an airline is dafter than they seem.
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Old 24th Oct 2009, 07:21
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I'm amazed that any experienced aviation professionals were deluded into thinking Excelsis offered them any hope of worthwhile employment.

Right from the start those on this forum with airline management experience were sounding alarm bells. I mean, you would at least refer to PPRuNe so see what was being said and then dig a bit deeper as a result surely.
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Old 24th Oct 2009, 08:10
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And the lesson of this tale seems to be beware of Nigerians flashing cash...& offering to fly a 737 into LCY...
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Have you guys seen the article in the latest edition of Airliners? Read it, first time I heard of it (yesterday) I just laughed.

I am doing a degree in a related subject and I could write at least a 5000 word report on why this airline wouldn't last a few years.

Lack of thought and attention to detail in this project. Why anyone would want to fly with them when they can get the high speed train which most likely will be cheaper, which comes into effect in a few years time down the east coast, I do not know.

Also, the website is bad and... it just would not be sustainable.

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Old 14th Nov 2009, 15:39
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I'm not one to say that they will start up or even make a go of it if they do....

but this statement from above....It's just silly and thoughtless.....

why anyone would want to fly with them when they can get the high speed train which comes into effect in a few years time down the east coast, I do not know
Maybe.....because the train, as you say, comes into effect in A FEW YEARS TIME.......

Long wait isn't it.....
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 16:31
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You tell me what happens when they do... the fact is that the domestic market for air travel in the UK is deteriorating because of it.

There will be less demand for regional/domestic flights when the improved rail network comes into force and especially in the current economic climate, you would have to be crazy to invest in the domestic market. The only way you could compete with the trains is keeping the costs low and increasing efficiency and frequency of flights, otherwise it's a no go.

Who wants to wait around at an airport when they can catch the train in a matter of seconds and arrive at their destination in roughly the same time as flying?

The only competitor, in my belief, to the high speed rail network, factoring in price, journey time and service will be Ryanair due to their low fares. Other airlines such as BA and BMI whom operate domestic flights are quite expensive to fly with, costing even more than the train.
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 21:58
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Get a grip, the airline and the high speed train are both a work of fiction.

Get with the program folks.
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Old 7th May 2010, 18:48
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Airline boss is charged with fraud

nebusiness.co.uk - News - Business News - Airline boss is charged with fraud

Airline boss is charged with fraud
May 7 2010 by jez Davison, Evening Gazette

A NIGERIAN businessman who pledged to restore Teesside’s air link with London has been charged with fraud.

Victor Bassey, the founder of Excelsis Airways - whose entire management team quit last year in a row over pay - is due to appear at Teesside Magistrates’ Court on May 13 to face the charges. He has been bailed until the hearing.

A spokesperson for Cleveland Police said: “A 49-year-old man has been charged with fraudulent trading, possession of articles for the use in fraud and five offences of obtaining services by deception.”

The announcement is the latest twist in a saga that originally had promised good news for Tees Valley commuters.

Last August Mr Bassey, who has been involved in other start-up airlines, claimed he had secured £10m that would give lift-off to a three-times-a-day service from Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTVA) to London City by the end of 2009.

The move was part of a plan to operate a short-haul, premium service that would connect Tees Valley with European destinations within a 90-minute flying time - primarily, but not exclusively, aimed at the business traveller.

But the much-heralded venture failed to take off when the funding did not materialise.

Doubts also surfaced when it emerged the Teesside-London City route had not been finalised and the Civil Aviation Authority had not received - and is yet to receive - an application for an operator’s licence.

Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTVA) declined to comment on Mr Bassey or Excelsis and said it was no further forward in its attempts to reinstate Tees Valley’s air link with London.

A DTVA spokesperson said: “It’s undoubtedly a difficult nut to crack. At the moment there is nothing on the horizon.”

However, a Teesside-London tie-up is still on the radar of DTVA, which could be in line for a multi-million pound compensation pay-out from bmibaby after the budget airline pulled out of Teesside four years ago.

This week three Appeal Court judges ruled that bmibaby breached its contractual obligations to base two of its aircraft exclusively at the North-eastern hub from spring 2006 until 2014.

DTVA has valued its claim against the airline at up to £12m.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 09:04
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The beginning of the end

" Backed by God"
Victor Bassey changed his plea to guilty (From The Northern Echo)
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