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If you want to look out the window all the way, I guess those seats wouldn't be for you. Maybe that's a factor in them being less popular. Anyway, you can see *enough*, like if you're passing over the Alps or coming in to land.
Has anyone else heard that "Fly fly fly Ryanair" song which has been played on arrival 2 or 3 times now on flights I've been on? It's quite catchy...
Has anyone else heard that "Fly fly fly Ryanair" song which has been played on arrival 2 or 3 times now on flights I've been on? It's quite catchy...
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Ryanair code share is fake !
Ryanair is considering taking legal action against a Russian airline that has been selling unauthorised ‘connections’ with its flights, the Irish Independent reports. Moscow-based Vladivostok Air has been offering passengers ‘smoothly connected’ flights from Moscow to six of Ryanair's European destinations, using Germany's Frankfurt Hahn as a hub.
The Russian airline has been promoting the link as a traditional codeshare, and passengers are encouraged to use Vladivostok's website to book through to Ryanair's flights, the newspaper says. Vladivostok has been offering flights through Hahn to London, Milan, Rome, Barcelona (Girona), Dublin and Madrid. The airlines actions go against Ryanair's policy of point-to-point flights only, as well as its refusal to sell tickets through intermediaries.
Ryanair executives said they knew nothing about Vladivostok's activities until it was brought to their attention by the Independent. Deputy chief executive Howard Millar said that there was ‘definitely’ no agreement with Vladivostok and 'we're going to act immediately to stop them booking passengers on our flights. We'll also be exploring legal options, because they are doing this entirely without our consent.’
The Russian airline began flying to Hahn on April 30. The newspaper reports that the airline's website says: ‘Frankfurt-Hahn route is smoothly connected to Ryanair Airlines' regular flights to London, Rome, Milan, Barcelona (Girona), Dublin, Madrid.’
The airline's booking engine makes no differentiation between Ryanair's destinations and their own and Ryanair flights are even coded under Vladivostok's XF code. Ryanair's Hahn to Girona flight, for example, is coded as XF4126, when the actual flight is FR4126
The Russian airline has been promoting the link as a traditional codeshare, and passengers are encouraged to use Vladivostok's website to book through to Ryanair's flights, the newspaper says. Vladivostok has been offering flights through Hahn to London, Milan, Rome, Barcelona (Girona), Dublin and Madrid. The airlines actions go against Ryanair's policy of point-to-point flights only, as well as its refusal to sell tickets through intermediaries.
Ryanair executives said they knew nothing about Vladivostok's activities until it was brought to their attention by the Independent. Deputy chief executive Howard Millar said that there was ‘definitely’ no agreement with Vladivostok and 'we're going to act immediately to stop them booking passengers on our flights. We'll also be exploring legal options, because they are doing this entirely without our consent.’
The Russian airline began flying to Hahn on April 30. The newspaper reports that the airline's website says: ‘Frankfurt-Hahn route is smoothly connected to Ryanair Airlines' regular flights to London, Rome, Milan, Barcelona (Girona), Dublin, Madrid.’
The airline's booking engine makes no differentiation between Ryanair's destinations and their own and Ryanair flights are even coded under Vladivostok's XF code. Ryanair's Hahn to Girona flight, for example, is coded as XF4126, when the actual flight is FR4126
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Okay, Vladivostok guys are the "bad guys" here, I agree. Nevertheless, a few issues to be pointed here.
- the potential of Russia and its future passengers severely underestimated by MOL
- the potential of carefully planned connecting flights (in general, primarily within the FR's own EU network) - underestimated
- the pathological fear of sharing anything with anybody (code share among others) visible not for the first time here
- better connections (yes, by introducing wisely selected connecting flights; making the reliable ones official)
- better flight planning (day-trips within the EU)
- conquering the new markets (yes, it's Russia) - by flying to the airports near the Russian border with shuttle bus sevices alongside and (after the negotiations, of course) commencing some code share flights if a trustworthy partner emerges
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eu01 - I completely agree!
As we have seen over the past six months, the load factor at FR has dropped and if they were to use a WN system with connection flights they would easily increase that LF!
Also, the Russians may become a huge market but the current economic climate is not the best for 'testing the water.' Until fuel drops and the economy stabilises FR need to concentrate on doing what they do best.
As we have seen over the past six months, the load factor at FR has dropped and if they were to use a WN system with connection flights they would easily increase that LF!
Also, the Russians may become a huge market but the current economic climate is not the best for 'testing the water.' Until fuel drops and the economy stabilises FR need to concentrate on doing what they do best.
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The idea of operating to airports on the periphery of the EU, bordering Russia (Finland or Estonia, say) might be thwarted by the Russians themselves. A service to these border points could be perceived by the Russians as
- getting round set bilaterals via a sneeky back-door
- avoiding Russian taxes
- challenging Russian carriers and undercutting prices
Of course, we all know how assertive the Russian government can be. Against this, they could hold shuttle buses up at the border and find problems with people's visas, making people miss flights.
I'm just a bit sceptical that the Russian authorities would accept this back-door way into the Russian market- it might just be more profitable to wait until Ryanair is granted rights to fly to Russia proper.
- getting round set bilaterals via a sneeky back-door
- avoiding Russian taxes
- challenging Russian carriers and undercutting prices
Of course, we all know how assertive the Russian government can be. Against this, they could hold shuttle buses up at the border and find problems with people's visas, making people miss flights.
I'm just a bit sceptical that the Russian authorities would accept this back-door way into the Russian market- it might just be more profitable to wait until Ryanair is granted rights to fly to Russia proper.
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The idea of operating to airports on the periphery of the EU, bordering Russia (Finland or Estonia, say) might be thwarted by the Russians themselves... Against this, they could hold shuttle buses up at the border and find problems with people's visas, making people miss flights... - it might just be more profitable to wait until Ryanair is granted rights to fly to Russia proper.
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I'm just a bit sceptical that the Russian authorities would accept this back-door way into the Russian market
More Tourists= more money.... Russian authorities can understand this?
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Ryanair new routes:
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Dublin (DUB)
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Nottingham, East Midlands (EMA)
I don't know start date and frequency, sorry.
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Dublin (DUB)
New:Perpignan, Llabanere (PGF) to Nottingham, East Midlands (EMA)
I don't know start date and frequency, sorry.
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Remember, if Russia were to make opensky agreements with EU countries carriers such as Aeroflot and BA would be very unhappy! They are very lucrative routes and would the Russian government want FR/U2 etc. recking their national airlines party?
It took along time for EU-US openskies and the Russians are even less inviting!
It took along time for EU-US openskies and the Russians are even less inviting!
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Cannot quite understand Perpignan to EMA as we already do Carcassone from EMA.
Edit.....
And after looking at the FR website it aint in the booking engine. However recent FR flights from EMA have operated to Perpignan due to an ongoing strike by airport statt at Carcassone, possible mix up??
Edit.....
And after looking at the FR website it aint in the booking engine. However recent FR flights from EMA have operated to Perpignan due to an ongoing strike by airport statt at Carcassone, possible mix up??
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Does this have anything to do with FR Carcasoone bound flights routing via Perpignan today becuase on the orginal link, the website claims that the route is active as of 26/05/08, which is today. That is why I don't think they are official new routes because there is nothing on the FR website.
SAM-EMA
SAM-EMA
Taxes and Charges
I was looking to book a cheap flight from Manchester to Dublin using the Ryanair offer which finishes tonight.
For the dates I looked at, I would just pay the taxes and charges.
If I book a return from Manchester, it will charge both sectors at £4.99
If I book it as two singles, the Manchester to Dublin sector is charged
at £4.99 whilst the Dublin to Manchester flight is 4.99 euros (around £4).
Not a significant difference, but slightly cheaper to buy two singles.
For the dates I looked at, I would just pay the taxes and charges.
If I book a return from Manchester, it will charge both sectors at £4.99
If I book it as two singles, the Manchester to Dublin sector is charged
at £4.99 whilst the Dublin to Manchester flight is 4.99 euros (around £4).
Not a significant difference, but slightly cheaper to buy two singles.
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Does this have anything to do with FR Carcasoone bound flights routing via Perpignan today becuase on the orginal link, the website claims that the route is active as of 26/05/08, which is today. That is why I don't think they are official new routes because there is nothing on the FR website.