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woooow...Do I have the impression LTNman loves his airports more than anythingelse in the world? For sure, he really hates SEN. You are free to speak, but get your facts right, mate.
Don't hate Southend and I don't love Luton, If you read through my LTN posts you will see that I can be critical of that airport as well. So what fact have I got wrong out of interest
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Now, now, LTNman, you don't need to carry your anti-SEN crusade onto here as well Most rational people who don't have vested interests at other under-performing London airports can see that Southend is destined for success. The place to debate this (which you have already attempted there but failed so started here instead) is http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...beginning.html
The facts you got wrong were:
I refer you to matspart3's post.
Not particularly considering the above.
There have been no surveys or polls of SEN yet so how is this judged? Last time Which? surveyed Luton...
I don't think the plankton will be contributing many passengers - most will come from London, Basildon, Southend, Chatham, Gillingham and the rest of East Anglia.
Perhaps you joined the party late - since you first started criticising they have built rather a nice new terminal:
If you're going to criticise somewhere, at least do it the justice of getting your facts right.
The facts you got wrong were:
The train takes all but an hour and even more than an hour on the odd train
The Southend service makes the slow crawl Stansted Express look quick by comparison
Easyjet are operating the flights into London's least popular airport
60% of the airports catchment area is the North Sea
facilities for passengers are almost non- existent
If you're going to criticise somewhere, at least do it the justice of getting your facts right.
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Hello LTNman. I'm not having a laugh, old chum. The fare is cheaper and the journey time only five minutes longer. Facilities for passengers at SEN's new terminal are fine for transit from rail station or car park through security to the aircraft. There's sufficient shopping and food and drink to meet basic needs - it's an airport after all, not a shopping centre. SEN is never going to be anything more than a small airport with niche services alongside the usual LoCo bucket and spade routes; it's no threat to LTN or STN or LGW. Why be so negative about it? Why not celebrate some new investment in aviation in these troubled times? I'm certainly pleased that LTN is going to see major new investment. We're all in this together, as a certain multi-millionaire, old Etonian man of the people says.
No problem with the catchment area, by the way. The immediate catchment is 300,000 and there's over a million people within half an hour's travel time so no worries there.
Southend United pressing for promotion to League One - how are Luton Town doing....? (Below the belt, I know!)
No problem with the catchment area, by the way. The immediate catchment is 300,000 and there's over a million people within half an hour's travel time so no worries there.
Southend United pressing for promotion to League One - how are Luton Town doing....? (Below the belt, I know!)
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such a shame that this news is not treated in a positive light. easyjet is a low cost carrier and not like flybe who pretends to be one. I don't call 400 euro cheap from the IOM to CDG cheap (one way).
People said that easyjet wouldn't stick out the LPL IOM LPL route, but they have, and it has become great success for them. So why not to londons new hub? Easyjet is a very cautious airline, I'm sure they have done there research carefully. I think what you will find is that the two flights a day will be for the summer season only.
People want cheap airfares, so here you all are. embrace it
People said that easyjet wouldn't stick out the LPL IOM LPL route, but they have, and it has become great success for them. So why not to londons new hub? Easyjet is a very cautious airline, I'm sure they have done there research carefully. I think what you will find is that the two flights a day will be for the summer season only.
People want cheap airfares, so here you all are. embrace it
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i think another big advantage easyjet has over current operators is that it uses jets rather than turbo props, dash 8 q 400 is a good aircraft, but people still look at it and think its old, even when comparing it to an old BAC 1-11.
oh, this is not to have a dig at turbo props, but just making a point.
oh, this is not to have a dig at turbo props, but just making a point.
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SEN?? London's least popular airport?? Better see the link below.
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LTNman your facts are incorrect mate!! You would find the train times to Canary Wharf are less from SEN than LTN also from SEN to the city are less. Which I would say in terms of business are the most important areas of London.
Also, why dont you come back to us in a year and give SEN a proper chance. People might be a little more understanding of your arguments if you give it a proper chance.
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LTNman your facts are incorrect mate!! You would find the train times to Canary Wharf are less from SEN than LTN also from SEN to the city are less. Which I would say in terms of business are the most important areas of London.
Also, why dont you come back to us in a year and give SEN a proper chance. People might be a little more understanding of your arguments if you give it a proper chance.
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such a shame that this news is not treated in a positive light. easyjet is a
low cost carrier and not like flybe who pretends to be one. I don't call 400
euro cheap from the IOM to CDG cheap (one way).
Flybe have potentially missed an opportunity with SEN however they may well learn that for themselves soon. Whether SEN is a success story in the making doesnt bother me and I am on neither side of the petty argument. Time will tell and whilst it may be a perfect alternative for businessmen trying to get in to London, it will never offer the wide range of connections that can be booked via LGW. There will always be a market for the latter especially when living on an island
I do wish Stobarts would buy Exeter though - certainly getting quiet down there!! But thats for another thread
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wish i could find a flight for 90 quid odd, try adding a bag, a fuel charge, and a credit charge soon adds up.
oh, and for you info, when sat in a hotel room in paris, the search engine can tell what country you are in and it is 400 euro.
yes 99 sure it will happen mom sen
wish i could find a flight for 90 quid odd, try adding a bag, a fuel charge, and a credit charge soon adds up.
oh, and for you info, when sat in a hotel room in paris, the search engine can tell what country you are in and it is 400 euro.
yes 99 sure it will happen mom sen
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Anne reynolds almost lets slip about easyjet SEN
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Airport Director on new equipment | MT TV | iom news on demand manx.net
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CDG-IOM will be in Euros. IOM-CDG will not, regardless of where you are. They are not all 400 euros so please do some research first before moaning.
Moving back to the SEN topic, Anne's speech wont load is it my computer or has the clip now expired?
Moving back to the SEN topic, Anne's speech wont load is it my computer or has the clip now expired?
Anne reynolds almost lets slip about easyjet SEN
if an announcement is coming, it will happen when they announce the winter schedule is on sale
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Arann coming off but Logie 328 filling the gap?
Infrastructure Minister David Crentey MHK confirmed that Aer Arann could only give a commitment to the route for a period of time - and talks had been going on for several weeks now to see if an alternative operator could be found.
He said: ‘It is a very important route for the island’s business community but it is not a profitable route for Aer Arann. I am hopeful that an alternative operator can be found.’
Infrastructure Minister David Crentey MHK confirmed that Aer Arann could only give a commitment to the route for a period of time - and talks had been going on for several weeks now to see if an alternative operator could be found.
He said: ‘It is a very important route for the island’s business community but it is not a profitable route for Aer Arann. I am hopeful that an alternative operator can be found.’
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Aer Arann to Close Isle of Man – London City Route
(Thursday, 22nd March 2012) Aer Arann is to cease operating its Isle of Man to London City service with effect from Wednesday 11th April 2012. The airline intends to operate a normal Isle of Man-London City schedule up to and including Tuesday, 10th April with the last flight, RE 308, arriving from London City at 2050hrs that evening.
Passengers with confirmed bookings for flights after 10th April will be contacted directly by Aer Arann and will be offered a full refund.
“We sincerely regret the impact that this decision will have on our customers” said Sean Brogan, Aer Arann’s Interim Chief Executive. “The decision however is due to our evolving new business model which is based on providing connectivity and frequency on flights between the UK and Ireland and onwards to the USA and unfortunately the Isle of Man-London City route is not a strategic fit with this.”
Aer Arann has 14 flight deck and cabin crew based in Isle of Man and all will be offered the opportunity to move to other Aer Arann bases.
“I would like to thank our customers for their continued support for this service and for remaining loyal to us and to the London City route,” said Sean Brogan.
“Our team in Ronaldsway has provided an excellent service to our Isle of Man and London City customers since the route was launched in January 2009 and they have helped to build and maintain our reputation as a professional, safe and caring airline.”
Aer Arann will continue to operate its Isle of Man to Dublin service under the Aer Lingus Regional brand effective 25th March.
With the Aer Lingus Regional service, Isle of Man passengers will benefit from connectivity on all Aer Lingus flights through Dublin offering not only excellent access to major European destinations such as Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels and Rome but also transatlantic connectivity on Aer Lingus flights to New York, Boston, Chicago and Orlando.
Passengers will also benefit from US Customs and Immigration pre-clearance facilities at Dublin Airport that will allow them to arrive in the US as domestic passengers, saving valuable time. Flights from Isle of Man to Dublin are available for booking on Aer Lingus- cheap flights, gift vouchers, hotels, car hire, & travel insurance.
(Thursday, 22nd March 2012) Aer Arann is to cease operating its Isle of Man to London City service with effect from Wednesday 11th April 2012. The airline intends to operate a normal Isle of Man-London City schedule up to and including Tuesday, 10th April with the last flight, RE 308, arriving from London City at 2050hrs that evening.
Passengers with confirmed bookings for flights after 10th April will be contacted directly by Aer Arann and will be offered a full refund.
“We sincerely regret the impact that this decision will have on our customers” said Sean Brogan, Aer Arann’s Interim Chief Executive. “The decision however is due to our evolving new business model which is based on providing connectivity and frequency on flights between the UK and Ireland and onwards to the USA and unfortunately the Isle of Man-London City route is not a strategic fit with this.”
Aer Arann has 14 flight deck and cabin crew based in Isle of Man and all will be offered the opportunity to move to other Aer Arann bases.
“I would like to thank our customers for their continued support for this service and for remaining loyal to us and to the London City route,” said Sean Brogan.
“Our team in Ronaldsway has provided an excellent service to our Isle of Man and London City customers since the route was launched in January 2009 and they have helped to build and maintain our reputation as a professional, safe and caring airline.”
Aer Arann will continue to operate its Isle of Man to Dublin service under the Aer Lingus Regional brand effective 25th March.
With the Aer Lingus Regional service, Isle of Man passengers will benefit from connectivity on all Aer Lingus flights through Dublin offering not only excellent access to major European destinations such as Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels and Rome but also transatlantic connectivity on Aer Lingus flights to New York, Boston, Chicago and Orlando.
Passengers will also benefit from US Customs and Immigration pre-clearance facilities at Dublin Airport that will allow them to arrive in the US as domestic passengers, saving valuable time. Flights from Isle of Man to Dublin are available for booking on Aer Lingus- cheap flights, gift vouchers, hotels, car hire, & travel insurance.
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Humble pie anyone who said that the route would not cease because flights were bookable all summer.....
Where does Cityjet park its Fokker 50 off-peak these days with no more noon-time parking exercises at IOM and JER? Maybe they are interested again now that the competition is gone? A daily flight is better than nothing, given that the route has been operated for quite a while by Euromanx and Aer Arann.
Where does Cityjet park its Fokker 50 off-peak these days with no more noon-time parking exercises at IOM and JER? Maybe they are interested again now that the competition is gone? A daily flight is better than nothing, given that the route has been operated for quite a while by Euromanx and Aer Arann.