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Old 9th Jan 2006, 15:29
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

I bet the web site goes tech! that would be typical BACX!!!!!
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ive been expecting nothing less!!!!if were lucky we might be able to find out thru the intranet,dont know if you have seen the new banner on the mainpage about the "new business launch"
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

Something is bound to go wrong tomorrow morning!

The banner on the main page made me chuckle, most of us were back at work last week?....
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

What website is this you guys are talking about?

ba.com?
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 16:03
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Wow Boy the company have set up a special web site so that employees can log on from 7am tomorrow morning so they can get the info first hand as opposed to third hand as per normal ie cleaners and caterers
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Wow Boy the company have set up a special web site so that employees can log on from 7am tomorrow morning so they can get the info first hand as opposed to third hand as per normal ie cleaners and caterers
Ah!
I see thanks for the info
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and there is a banner advertising it on the BACX intranet
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

CPA (Capacity Purchase Agreement) as I understand it is a bit like a franchise agreement in a different dress, slightly different dynamic in corporate structure etc. but essentially the same thing where a large network carrier (eg BA) Buys x amount of capacity from another corporate entity but maintains control over certain, if not all aspects of the operation.

Expressjet in the US provides regional services to Continental mainline through a Capacity Purchase Agreement, but as I see it it's just another buzz word for a franchise agreement...........

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Not so. There is a very big difference: who takes the commercial risk? Who'll lose money if a route flops (or who'll make it if it's a winner)?

In a franchise agreement, the franchisee (the little guy) takes that risk: will this be a good route to launch? What fare levels should I set? Can I get a high enough yield? How often should I fly the route?

In a CPA (at least the traditional US-style Capacity Purchase Agreements), the major carrier defines what capacity/frequency they want on which routes, so the regional carrier has a more-or-less guaranteed revenue stream with relatively little risk (OK, the major could go bankrupt, but otherwise...) Thus it almost resembles a PSO route more than a franchise.

A good overview of US-style CPAs is here

The message seems to be that the era of cushy CPA deals in the US is coming to an end, so the US regional carriers have to look elsewhere. As Virginblue mentioned earlier, Expressjet has announced the establishment of "Expressjet Europe" and is looking for customers among the European majors. (They claim to be able to deliver great economies of scale because of their US ERJ operation - but given that they'd be flying JAA/EASA-certified aircraft in Europe, and potentially wouldn't even be flying ERJ135/145s at all, it's not clear to me how attractive their proposition is.)

But this may be academic based on tomorrow's news...

C.
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

of course the thing will crash at 7.01am tomorrow as everbody logs on and the IT dept wont have expected that to happen!!!
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i noticed that the other day the link given on the postcard was a dead one but it now takes u to the intranet login pages where u choose ba or bacx intranet.how frustrating if it crashes tomorrow morning,especially as i am on leave at the moment!
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Does anyone know if the new/improved BACX will have it's own official website?
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Have heard it gets announced this week and the BA livery is getting dropped , have also heard that in BHX an RJ 100 has been badly damaged after an engine run does anybody know anything about it?
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there is a thread in the flight deck forums under rumours and news titled "ground incident at egbb" there will be more information regarding the RJ100 incident in there.
The big announcement is tomorrow,this is what were waiting for,nobody knows what is gonna happen,whether there will be a new livery or what.
WOWBOY as the announcement has not yet been made,nobody knows anything except management,who are sworn to secrecy.
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 17:27
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

Cyrano
Thanks for the clarification, the whole CPA/ExpressJet Europe thing is quite interesting, it will be interesting to see how it plays out in Europe.
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

I think the website will work fine tomorrow, have some faith!!
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Mars Bar guess you the IT man then!!!!!
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couldnt be anyone else saying it'll be fine!
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 20:38
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Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!

Originally Posted by tiggerific_69
another one was them taking crew food off us.but then they wud have to stop nightstops/3 days trips & gv us allowances and longer turnarounds so we have time to get food & eat it.which wont work if they make us clean & want us on the ground less time.spose we'll just have to wait another 14 and a half hours and see what happens
This is exactly one of the reasons why low cost will never work. The attitude of some people is that they should have a 40-50 min break after every 40 to 60 min sector. Dont think the crew at Ryanair or Easyjet see it as a problem so why should you.
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a 40 or 50 min turnaround in the timetable allows you more flexibility allows you to recover from any disruption in the schedule once the low costs are behind schedule it affects the whole days flying for that airframe cos they are always chasing time, whereas if you have some down time it allows you chance to get back on schedule its not all about crew rest.
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Originally Posted by marlowe
a 40 or 50 min turnaround in the timetable allows you more flexibility allows you to recover from any disruption in the schedule once the low costs are behind schedule it affects the whole days flying for that airframe cos they are always chasing time, whereas if you have some down time it allows you chance to get back on schedule
Marlowe agree fully with that point and it is valid, however the more sectors you fly the more money making potential you have. If you keep the aircraft on the ground for an extra 20mins each turn round that could equate to an extra short return trip or an extra longer single sector per day. It also does not pay to have the aircraft sitting around all weekend making no money. The higher the utilisation the higher the potential revenue.
I admit higher utilisation also brings a higher likely hood of technical or handling delays but given that there is engineering support at all uk bases and contracted support abroad that should be better catered for than most low cost carriers.
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