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[mmeteesside]

Feel free to correct me, but I think...

It's only dropping 7 seats from 35 > 28 !?

They were always planning to use the J41, just had to train their crews up for LCY, therefore leased the D328 as Cirrus had been operating into LCY anyway.

mmeteesside

[NCL-06]

ohhh right kk

[10 DME ARC]

I think its even less 33 down to 29! And a lot cheaper since they belong to them!

[transwede]

I see the summer season is well under way at NCL, with yesterday particularly busy. Nice to see the long hauls back for the summer, MON and TS. FJE seem to have made an excellent start aswell.

[NCL-06]

lets hope FJE's form continues as I'm booked on a flight with them lol

[NCLRULES]

Originally Posted by transwede

Nice to see the long hauls back for the summer, MON

The Monarch A330 was in the new livery yesturday. It took a lot of runway to get off the ground aswell!!

[Jamesair]

The latest figures from the CAA for the NCL - LCY flight are for February and these show 1620 pax carried....I calculate that at fractionally over 10 pax per flight. Hopefully it picked up in March and April.

[nclairportfan]

To be fair though the NCL - BHX route carried 2109 pax in Feb with the same frequency so for a new route the LCY figures seem quite good!

[lukeylad]

hey every one my names lukeylad aka luke gargett.

Im a new member.

Seen as ncl is my local airport i thought that this would be a good place for my first post in the forums.

It looks like a great forum. cant wait to see what go's on around here.


regards

luke

[DC10FAN]

Originally Posted by skyman771

Fail to get my head around any of this ! Firstly I must question if you have much experience of the US and their mentality. If you had ever transited through ATL as opposed JFK or EWR you would not be so naive as to suggest DL as a realistic option. DL would never make a success of a NCL operation, there is absolutely no logical reason as to why DL would opt for Newcastle. Their current financial position dictates that they necessarily need to adopt a risk averse strategy, have little or no experience of provincial UK operations, currently do not have any suitable aircraft available. More fundamentally they don't fly direct to NYC !!.
You need to update yourself on their operations, everything goes through their ATL hub, and thats just one bit too much hassle for a significant proportion of any US market from the North East of England. As for BD then what planet are you on?, by all accounts the airlines management strategy is currently sufficiently disorganised as not to be able to run a p**s up in a brewery !

I generally agree that DL are not an obvious choice for a service to New York but your comment about all their services going through ATL is not correct. Infact they probably have as many transatlantic flights from JFK; they operate to many European cities(some secondary) such as Barcelona, Brussels, Nice etc Continental is the obvious candidate as they have a big hub at EWR(I've used it) and they have more suitable a/c. Delta 757s are not equipped for long haul and a 767 -300 would be too big. BD is a non-starter; they have no presence at NCL; any connecting Star Alliance traffic comes from a hub with direct flights to NY and they don't have suitable a/c either.

[simonwa]

With all the changes in who handles which airline at NCL, does anybody have an accurate list of which airlines Servisair handle and which airlines Swissport handle?

[lukeylad]

simonwa

according to my collage tutor swissport hold the majority at NCL both of them are currantly after BA.

[Topjet]

Who handles who?

Servisair:
Mytravel, Easyjet, Ryanair, SN Brussels, Air France, Onur Air, Mail flights, Flyjet, Helios/Alpha Jet, Spanair, Hapag Lloyd (but not for much longer).

Swissport:
Everybody else bar what samson handle!

Edited to say Transwed has covered the ones I forgot servisair handled.

[heslop2006]

hehe thats right, I never knew NCL had BA operating to Gerona all summer

[Jamesair]

A few more comments on the Delta situation......Delta have closed down SONG and have said that this would release the 757 aircraft for use on Intercontinental routes to aid expansion...this would solve the "lack of suitable aircraft" problem.

[skyman771]

Originally Posted by DC10FAN

I generally agree that DL are not an obvious choice for a service to New York but your comment about all their services going through ATL is not correct.

Sorry for the misleading text, yes it should have been no UK direct services to NYC. But all things being equal I just can't buy into this one.
There's also another way to look at this, CO are perhaps some way ahead of DL in that CO have been active in the provincial UK market for some time now & will have undoubtdly looked into the feasibility of a NCL operation, notwithstanding that it was not top of their short term options. Indeed it may never be, but if it isn't then one has to assume that the reluctance of both themselves and AA would be sufficient to hold any other perspective US operator at bay. In any event surely this is all accademic as DL have no suitable available aircraft. I'm not suficiently into the reggie thing as to know as to how old their / SONG's 757's are, but I'm sure I saw DL 757's on many occasions around & about the US in the 80's. Surely these 757's are more likely to be candidates to follow their 1011's to the Arizona scrap yards than to be to given major refits. Such expense solely to service the limitations of thin routes to the UK where airfields impose severe runway restrictions doesn't appear viable to me.
To avoid being negative, my money remains on a CO operation within 2 years, but then thats a long time in aviation terms.

[airhumberside]

Originally Posted by skyman771

Sorry for the misleading text, yes it should have been no UK direct services to NYC.

DL start MAN-JFK this summer

Originally Posted by skyman771

In any event surely this is all accademic as DL have no suitable available aircraft. I'm not suficiently into the reggie thing as to know as to how old their / SONG's 757's are, but I'm sure I saw DL 757's on many occasions around & about the US in the 80's. Surely these 757's are more likely to be candidates to follow their 1011's to the Arizona scrap yards than to be to given major refits.

I dont think their B757's are equipped for transatlantic flights. And DL might not be able to afford to equip them at the moment. I have to agree with you when you say DL are unlikely to go to NCL

[transwede]

lukeylad I fear your college tutor may well be day dreaming regarding the BA contract, Swissport will never loose them as their predecessors hold valuable BA handling experience, including BA qualified despatchers. If, however, Servisair gain BA then I would very extremely shocked considering some comments have have been made reagrding service levels at S'Air.

simonwa Swissport are by far the largest handling agent at NCL, though S'Air did hold the majority of contracts up until a few years ago.

Swissport: Thomsonfly, Thomas Cook, BA, Transat, Eastern, First Choice, BMI, Jet2, KLM, LTE, Monarch, SAS, Wideroe, Sunexpress.

The followingairlines are those that have transferred their handling contracts from S'Air to Swissport over the past few years: Air Europa, Air Malta, Balkan, FlyBe, Eurocypria, Hapag Lloyd, Lufthansa, Pegasus.

Servisair: Aegean, Air Azores, Air France, Easyjet, Air Scotland, Austrian, BritishJet, European Air Charter, Flyjet, Futura, Helios/Ajet, Karthago, Mytravel, Onur Air, Ryanair, Spanair.

The BA charter to GRO is operated by BA Connect using RJ100.

Is anyone else aware ofa new charter flight to Molde, operated by Atlantic Airways?

[HH6702]

Charter flight to Molde

Where did you here this?
What day of the week or times have you heard?

[sunshine79]

Where is Molde?