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Originally Posted by HH6702
Only first choice is out in the travel agents.
nothing new in there for next summer
nothing new in there for next summer
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Bad news on Cancun I'm afraid, I have spoke to Thomas Cook Holidays and they have advised that it is a mis-print in the brochures and that it is not planned to operate at the moment 
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It seems strange that last year Thomson offered Cancun for sale only to later say it was a brochure error and now Thomas Cook are doing the same? What is it with long haul out of NCL, first JFK now Cancun? Personally I think it would be worth giving somewhere like CUN a go, I think it would go down a storm just like POP has.
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I fully agree, a place like Cancun would go down a storm with NCL pax....I also think that Dubai (Business and Leisure) would be a huge success.
Look what happened when Sharm-el-Sheik was introduced....pax figures and increases in flights this season speaks volumes to the tour operators.
We are being left behind by airports such as Bristol in the longhaul stakes.
PS ......The March International route statistics are available today on the CAA site
Look what happened when Sharm-el-Sheik was introduced....pax figures and increases in flights this season speaks volumes to the tour operators.
We are being left behind by airports such as Bristol in the longhaul stakes.
PS ......The March International route statistics are available today on the CAA site
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http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?categoryid=80
Click on UK Provisional Airport Stats for last couple of months and UK Airport Stats for earlier periods - at top left of the page.
You will be presented simply with airport sizes and international routes in the Provisional section, but with a list of all sorts of information in the Airports section.
You have to scroll down years and months. Having selected the month click it and then scroll down the list of headings.
International Route analysis and Domestic Route analysis are the sections to read for route loadings. They are at tables 12.1 and 12.2.
Read it in PDF format, the other is next to impossible to make sense of.
Click on UK Provisional Airport Stats for last couple of months and UK Airport Stats for earlier periods - at top left of the page.
You will be presented simply with airport sizes and international routes in the Provisional section, but with a list of all sorts of information in the Airports section.
You have to scroll down years and months. Having selected the month click it and then scroll down the list of headings.
International Route analysis and Domestic Route analysis are the sections to read for route loadings. They are at tables 12.1 and 12.2.
Read it in PDF format, the other is next to impossible to make sense of.
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
We are being left behind by airports such as Bristol in the longhaul stakes.
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RobT100 what complete non-sense you speak. Bristol is comparable to NCL, both are fastly expanding regional airports, which up until a few years back did only go as far as the likes of PMI, but look at them both now. The expansion is not only good for the airport itself but for the local economy, providing jobs, income from inbound tourists etc. Up until 5 years ago there were very few airlines at NCL with their own staff, not with the likes of Easy, Jet2, Thomsonfly, XL and Flyjet opening new services the amount of jobs created speaks for itself. Jamesair was quite right in saying that NCL is lagging behind Bristol in the long haul market. BRS has NYC, BJL, and now long haul Caribbean courtesy of FCA. NCL has a very similar market to BRS so why is longhaul not a possibility from NCL. True that smaller regional airports may not sustain weekly or higher frequencies but with BRS having a fortnightly operation to the Caribbean, it goes to show that this kind of operation is viable from regional airports. Besides what is classed as a regional airport, with both NCL and BRS handling 5 million pax they are rapidly becoming international departure points, with NCL alone having a choice of over 85 destinations direct, a little more from BRS.
It is very true, that when SSH was introduced that there was an untapped market, hence greater frequency. This shows that there is demand and possibly HRG etc could be another popular choice, given the opportunity by the major tour operators. POP has also proved a hit.
So some on the likes of Thomas Cook, Thomson, MyTravel etc give the Northeasta chance of longhaul sunshine from the doorstep.
It is very true, that when SSH was introduced that there was an untapped market, hence greater frequency. This shows that there is demand and possibly HRG etc could be another popular choice, given the opportunity by the major tour operators. POP has also proved a hit.
So some on the likes of Thomas Cook, Thomson, MyTravel etc give the Northeasta chance of longhaul sunshine from the doorstep.
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I was thinking about an earlier discussion that was mentioned on here about a new peir being created where the old fuel farm was opposite the exisiting pier.
I realised that surely this would result in a complete redesign of the exisiting terminal. This is due to the fact domestic arriving pax will have to cross through international passport control to get to the domestic arrivalls hall unless they go through a maze of stairs and corridoors which wont go down well with the pax. The only thing I can think is that they are bussed across or an additional domestic arrivals hall is added...but then you have the confusion for meeters and greeters as to which all they will end up at!
I realised that surely this would result in a complete redesign of the exisiting terminal. This is due to the fact domestic arriving pax will have to cross through international passport control to get to the domestic arrivalls hall unless they go through a maze of stairs and corridoors which wont go down well with the pax. The only thing I can think is that they are bussed across or an additional domestic arrivals hall is added...but then you have the confusion for meeters and greeters as to which all they will end up at!
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I shouldnt take any notice of him, he always talks rubbish (is unable to find anyone that agrees with his ideas or back them up). He has openly admitted on this forum that his aim is to wind people up. The best way, in my opinion is to leave him alone and dont reply to any of his ludicrous posts.
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I agree that BRS and NCL are very similar in size (albeit NCL is physically bigger) and potential catchment.
However, as someone who has used BRS a lot over many, many years I'm not sure that it is a beacon of long-haul flights.
It is true that it has the daily EWR flight and 2 x weekly to BJL in winter - it also had up to 5 x weekly Egypt charters last winter, although I'm not sure they count as long-haul.
However, it hasn't had the regular Toronto and Florida flights of a lot of regional airports for a long time. The much smaller EXT down the road has had a weekly summer Toronto charter for many years and this summer CWL (with currently just a third of BRS's annual pax figure) will have a weekly Zoom flight to both Toronto and Vancouver and weekly Thomsonfly flights to Florida (I suspect there will also be another operator), Mexico and Dominican Republic.
It has been pointed out that First Choice is to start fortnightly flights to Cuba and Dominican Republic and a weekly flight to Florida, but most if not all will operate via another UK airport because of BRS's short runway.
So, compared to BRS, I don't think NCL is doing too badly in the long-haul stakes.
As for direct destinations, the BRS website boasts 'over 100'. I haven't bothered to count although by mid-summer when the new easyJet routes come on stream there will be 57 scheduled destinations (but not all daily).
However, as someone who has used BRS a lot over many, many years I'm not sure that it is a beacon of long-haul flights.
It is true that it has the daily EWR flight and 2 x weekly to BJL in winter - it also had up to 5 x weekly Egypt charters last winter, although I'm not sure they count as long-haul.
However, it hasn't had the regular Toronto and Florida flights of a lot of regional airports for a long time. The much smaller EXT down the road has had a weekly summer Toronto charter for many years and this summer CWL (with currently just a third of BRS's annual pax figure) will have a weekly Zoom flight to both Toronto and Vancouver and weekly Thomsonfly flights to Florida (I suspect there will also be another operator), Mexico and Dominican Republic.
It has been pointed out that First Choice is to start fortnightly flights to Cuba and Dominican Republic and a weekly flight to Florida, but most if not all will operate via another UK airport because of BRS's short runway.
So, compared to BRS, I don't think NCL is doing too badly in the long-haul stakes.
As for direct destinations, the BRS website boasts 'over 100'. I haven't bothered to count although by mid-summer when the new easyJet routes come on stream there will be 57 scheduled destinations (but not all daily).
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According to Travel Weekly Thomson will launch Luxor flights for next summer - but we will have to wait and see - I'm gutted about Cancun, it would be a really popular destination, we do loads of bookings from North East customers who have to travel to Manchester or Gatwick.
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Hi, I just looked in the back of Thomas Cooks tropical shores brochure and it says CUN will be opertaed by MON on Sunday, I hope this will go ahead, we need more long haul
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Does anyone know if the Cancun flight is actually operating?? It is featured in the Thomas Cook Tropical Shores & Sunset Summer Sun 2007 brochures as a Sunday flight departing at 1240 with MON. Yet you can't book any holidays if you try booking through thomascook.com. Seems strange that the flight is advertised but not able to book.
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Originally Posted by heslop2006
Hi, I just looked in the back of Thomas Cooks tropical shores brochure and it says CUN will be opertaed by MON on Sunday, I hope this will go ahead, we need more long haul