LUTON

[ezpz]

Originally Posted by CAP493

easyJet has just confirmed that its 16th and 17th LTN based aircraft will arrive in March (# 18 & 19 due in June/July) which will enable the airline to "...introduce several new exciting destinations from London/Luton".

Shame they will not have enough crew to operate the new aircraft. Plans are being drawn up to "consolidate some lines of flying" to ease the crew shortage. Perhaps some easyJets will be joining the Ryanair aircraft parked up and idle on stands 11-15.

[Powerjet1]

New easy routes starting end of June. Luton to Istanbul, daily, Rijeka(Croatia) 4 x weekly, and Gatwick to Marrakech.

[nickmanl]

Really? Are Morocco and Turkey signed up to the EU open skies agreement? For some reason which I can't explain I never thought a low cost would fly to a country not signed up!

Also, isn't Turkey a little far? I was always in the belief the Athens - Luton flight was about the longest sector a low cost airline could do to ensure it remains profitable.

[Buster the Bear]

I told you a few eye brows would be raised!

Morocco has some kind of 'open skies' deal with the EU, a low cost is to be formed by Corsair to operate from Casablanca. turkey is trying its best to become part of the EU (Northern Cyprus a major stumbling block!)

Rumour on the Air Blue thread of a Pakistan Luton schedule.

Arann to Liege has gone quiet?

On a press release from easyJet that they published today another airport was mentioned also as a destination in Croatia as well, I wonder if the 'top banana' (that is a clue) in easyLand made a mistake accidentally revealing another future destination?

[Powerjet1]

On a press release from easyJet that they published today another airport was mentioned also as a destination in Croatia as well, I wonder if the 'top banana' (that is a clue) in easyLand made a mistake accidentally revealing another future destination?

Unless they would want to go head to head with Wizz, would suspect unlikely from LTN.

Interesting figure on easy's website stating they operate 924 weekly flights through LTN at the peak and will carry 5.8m pax through the airport this year.

[Buster the Bear]

No idea if it was from Luton, but could operate on the 3 days that they do not fly to Rijeka.

MADRID (AFX) - Abertis Infraestructuras SA sees the acquisition of one of
BAA's airports as a possible growth opportunity, CEO Salvador Alemany said.
Speaking to analysts at a presentation of full-year to December results,
Alemany said: "We should study this" possibility, noting that Abertis "is more
suited to grow through acquisitions" rather than organic growth, thanks to its
"solid financial capacity."

[nickmanl]

Dont think its just recognising Cyprus which is the stumbling block, how about an appalling human rights record and a refusal to accept the genocide of the Amernians in 1915 which is stopping them joining the EU plus many more!

Anyway, moving on, I've definately got a quote from Stelios somewhere stating Athens is really too long a flight for easy to operate and he only really opened it because of his Greek origins. Ryanair have also said a 3 hour flight is the tops for a loco to operate.

How the hell is Instanbul going to work!?

[Powerjet1]

How the hell is Instanbul going to work

Maybe easy might do what they did with Athens when they had two daily flights from LTN; fly overnight. I think the second departure was around 21.45and allowing for the time diff flying east, became a very early morning arrival in Athens. Maybe the same for Instanbul. Return arrival into LTN would then be about 10/10.30 thereabouts.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by nickmanl

Also, isn't Turkey a little far? I was always in the belief the Athens - Luton flight was about the longest sector a low cost airline could do to ensure it remains profitable.

With 6 daily departures from LHR from legacy carriers, demand is strong so could be some rich pickings for EZY whatever the timings.

[King Pong]

So are Thomsonfly really operating scheduled services from Luton this summer or just filling up their Thomson Holidays charter flights?

Looking at their timetable no two days are the same.

[LTNman]

new routes

Aer Arrann
Angers/Luton
Liege/Luton
I think this makes 6 routes

[Powerjet1]

Angers/Luton Aer Arrann

And Liege also.

[LTNman]

Originally Posted by Powerjet1

And Liege also.

With a LTN based aircraft

Add to that the 4 additional easyjet airframes. Anyone got 5 new stands available they don’t want as I think LTN needs them urgently

[D7666]

[QUOTE=King Pong]I quoting

''...
Letters have been sent to those who live close to the runway
...''

I received one of those and I live just off the town centre.

I do not know whether thats because they are covering a large area with the letters or because there going to be a lot of noise. All I can say if I can hear it this far away then its going to be a lot louder than aircraft. To put that in context with what I can hear, just about the only aircraft I notice are things like 737-200s and 111s and the like and we don't get too many of those these days. Networkrail pushing pebbles around their tracks at night is a bigger problem here but lets not digress too far.

--
Nick

[Buster the Bear]

Air Blue dot com web site states flights to the UK to commence in 2006. Fill the SweFly void?

See this thread: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...light=air+blue

ATR72 based, good news, Liege is rather handy for quite a few countries apart from Belgium.

[CAP493]

Originally Posted by ezpz

Perhaps some easyJets will be joining the Ryanair aircraft parked up and idle on stands 11-15.

LLAO doesn't have the available spare stand capacity to accomodate 'dead' aircraft and is likely to charge a significant premium for this sort of activity in order to discourage it. Manston's fairly empty these days, I believe...

Shame they will not have enough crew to operate the new aircraft. Plans are being drawn up to "consolidate some lines of flying" to ease the crew shortage...

easyJet can always do what Ryanair does and hire on short- to medium-term contracts, some east European 737 type-rated JAA licence holders: plenty of 'em looking west for gainful employment!

LTNman=The apron was poorly designed with limited appeal to the cargo operators

Perhaps, but (for short- and medium-haul cargo ops) LTN Cargo is becoming increasingly favoured by the trucking companies because of the 'bespoke' service that it provides as opposed to the 'dump it, sort it yourself & load it' approach of certain Big Airport Authority locales just south and just north of the M25. Apart from the 2006 runway night closures, the only major impediments are cargo apron stand space and cargo terminal capacity. The other advantage to the overnight cargo operators is that unlike the pax who have to struggle with the local crap road system, at for example, midnight, 4am and 5am the roads are completely clear (apart from the usual local Luton drunks, junkies, pimps and winos) so access into and out of the Airport is extremely good. You can even hit the A1M in under 20 minutes!!!

This must be one of the factors in DHL returning as soon as the runway reopens H24 in July, and talking about a big-time presence from December this year when normal service resumes.

[Powerjet1]

With Aer Arran now basing an ATR72 at LTN, flights to LRT now depart at 14.25, 3 x weekly(was originally planned 6 x weekly dep at 0900) and 3 x weekly to ANE, also departing mid afternoon. Flights to LGG operate 6 x weekly with an 0630 dep and a 1335 arr back into LTN. This will give the airline a total of 100 weekly flights into/out of LTN.

[LTNman]

LLAO doesn't have the available spare stand capacity to accomodate 'dead' aircraft and is likely to charge a significant premium for this sort of activity in order to discourage it. Manston's fairly empty these days, I believe...

I suppose if push comes to shove there is always the compass swing bay and the engine run up bay to park a “dead” aircraft.
I would have thought that these extra 5 LTN based aircraft will kill off any short term Ryanair expansion plans for LTN.
But until easyjet announce enough new LTN routes to occupy 4 additional aircraft nothing can be taken for granted despite what has been written here.

This must be one of the factors in DHL returning as soon as the runway reopens H24 in July, and talking about a big-time presence from December this year when normal service resumes.

Without the cargo apron being expanded there can be no big time presence. There is no mention in the 2030 document about a larger cargo apron either

[vintage ATCO]

Originally Posted by LTNman

I suppose if push comes to shove there is always the compass swing bay and the engine run up bay to park a “dead” aircraft.

Not a chance. A parked acft in the compass base would infringe the runway strip or the 1:7 transistional slope (a holding acft or one doing a compass swing is treated as a temporary obstacle). And I don't suppose the based companies would be too enamoured with parked acft in the engine run bay when they want to do an engine run. Besides both are used as remote holding/departure shuffling areas.

Without the cargo apron being expanded there can be no big time presence. There is no mention in the 2030 document about a larger cargo apron either

The cargo building was always designed to be extended across the full width of the apron but the apron, as you say, was designed for BAe146s. Mind you, we don't do bad with what we've got.

[Buster the Bear]

I wonder what the daily movement rate will be come summer 06, and for that matter, peak hourly rate?

The sky above Brookmans Park will become even livelier!