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Hey MIMA - I'd never have guessed (that's if EB is right).
69 - strong allegations founded on what. You should be very careful about calling professional crew nomatter where they come from 'cowboys'. A Jem sympathiser, torquetube, came up with a similar slagging off of the Euros a few weeks back. His thread disappeared and so did he - haven't resurrected yourself.
Emerald should stick to what it knows best - moving inanimate objects.
69 - strong allegations founded on what. You should be very careful about calling professional crew nomatter where they come from 'cowboys'. A Jem sympathiser, torquetube, came up with a similar slagging off of the Euros a few weeks back. His thread disappeared and so did he - haven't resurrected yourself.
Emerald should stick to what it knows best - moving inanimate objects.
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euromanx is ok, lets call it a shabby ticket agent!
They have crews from europe operating their routes, and they are operating far from home. Do you think they are going to stick to procedures? Well I tell u they are not!!!
Give us all one reason why emerald should stick to moving inanimate objects?
Does it get to you that emerald is actually doing well on the pax side of operations?
Does it get to you that emerald operate with industry standard crews using their own a/c?
euromanx is ok, lets call it a shabby ticket agent!
They have crews from europe operating their routes, and they are operating far from home. Do you think they are going to stick to procedures? Well I tell u they are not!!!
Give us all one reason why emerald should stick to moving inanimate objects?
Does it get to you that emerald is actually doing well on the pax side of operations?
Does it get to you that emerald operate with industry standard crews using their own a/c?
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400 kgs - probably the minimum for a div to Liverpool for the ATR/Fokker - not a problem. You'll probably find that the absolute minimum on landing is around 180 kgs - if operating to that then worrying but quite legal.
'one of the euromanx's toy aeroplanes had be reported landing with insufficiant fuel!' - fact or conjecture? And insufficient fuel for what? As I said, you should be careful when throwing around unsubstantiated allegations about anybody. Whether a crew is operating at home or away from base its company has operating procedures which are applicable wherever. Any breach would attract an interview with the CP as at the end of the day its his backside on the line.
As for Emerald there have been enough threads on prune over the past few months to give an insight into their operation - little of it flattering.
'one of the euromanx's toy aeroplanes had be reported landing with insufficiant fuel!' - fact or conjecture? And insufficient fuel for what? As I said, you should be careful when throwing around unsubstantiated allegations about anybody. Whether a crew is operating at home or away from base its company has operating procedures which are applicable wherever. Any breach would attract an interview with the CP as at the end of the day its his backside on the line.
As for Emerald there have been enough threads on prune over the past few months to give an insight into their operation - little of it flattering.
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Havent laughed so hard in ages..........In your dreams mate....sorry no dashes or RJs for you hun....stick tour lickle Jet Stream.
All the audience have to do is take a look at your profile and look at previous threads youve posted.
Hey San get the feeling your one of the good guys who is commercially aware.
Watch this space guys
E B
Havent laughed so hard in ages..........In your dreams mate....sorry no dashes or RJs for you hun....stick tour lickle Jet Stream.
All the audience have to do is take a look at your profile and look at previous threads youve posted.
Hey San get the feeling your one of the good guys who is commercially aware.
Watch this space guys
E B
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Hiya everyone! How yer all diddling?
Just been reading the latest threads on here. I know that we and a certain other company from speke dont get on, but it seems - especially on here that the friendly competive banter has ascended steeply!
And before yer all say so and so started it, lets take a step back, chill and reflect.
Yer probz thinking wot the *^"/?
The way i see it there are more important issues going on around the world, then how a certain airline aint no airline and how another airline will be no more - supposedly, but anyhow.
I mean yea, i love working for 3W ive grown up with it, with the pax, and the staff - like how im sure you guys love working for your respective companies. But its when i keep reading repitive critiscm [ i know spelt it wrong] it kinda depressing, boring and long winded now, because myself and me fellow workmates have put lot of time getting to where we are now, like im sure how you dudes have in your companies. To me it seems like a personal attack on ourselves - you probably say ' not meant to', but dudes that is how it comes across.
At the end of the day we all work together in the same industry- except we wear different uniforms, are planes are different colours etc etc.............so ok not much in common, lol.
So I suggest that we have today, one whole day without throwing muck at each other, as it is st. valentines day - so go on lets be nice to each other to day!
Happy flying dudes!
P.S Gmima, dude think yer have to send in a c.v first before yer can say yer work for us! hehehehehe
Just been reading the latest threads on here. I know that we and a certain other company from speke dont get on, but it seems - especially on here that the friendly competive banter has ascended steeply!
And before yer all say so and so started it, lets take a step back, chill and reflect.
Yer probz thinking wot the *^"/?
The way i see it there are more important issues going on around the world, then how a certain airline aint no airline and how another airline will be no more - supposedly, but anyhow.
I mean yea, i love working for 3W ive grown up with it, with the pax, and the staff - like how im sure you guys love working for your respective companies. But its when i keep reading repitive critiscm [ i know spelt it wrong] it kinda depressing, boring and long winded now, because myself and me fellow workmates have put lot of time getting to where we are now, like im sure how you dudes have in your companies. To me it seems like a personal attack on ourselves - you probably say ' not meant to', but dudes that is how it comes across.
At the end of the day we all work together in the same industry- except we wear different uniforms, are planes are different colours etc etc.............so ok not much in common, lol.
So I suggest that we have today, one whole day without throwing muck at each other, as it is st. valentines day - so go on lets be nice to each other to day!
Happy flying dudes!
P.S Gmima, dude think yer have to send in a c.v first before yer can say yer work for us! hehehehehe
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Hi Euromanx dude, when u say "worked hard to get to where you are today" I think that's the problem, u see EM haven't actually got anywhere, they are still a travel agent selling someone elses seats. But they insist on pretending to the Manx people that they are something more... I hope I'm wrong, get the UK AOC number then you'll be a real airline. Good Luck
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I've read so many threads and I'm confused. Euromanx...who's AOC are they operating under coz surely it ain't their own?!! Routes.....IOM to EDI?/GLA?/MAN?/LPL?/DUB?/BHD?/STN?/LCY?/BRS? and with what aircraft...Beech1900?/ATR?/Dash?/RJ?/Jetstream 31 etc etc
Sound like an identity crisis to me. Surely the CAA are putting pressure on them to get their own aircraft as there must be a time limit on operating foreign reg'd stuff.
And everyone on the IOM seemed to slag off BA........DUDE!!
Sound like an identity crisis to me. Surely the CAA are putting pressure on them to get their own aircraft as there must be a time limit on operating foreign reg'd stuff.
And everyone on the IOM seemed to slag off BA........DUDE!!
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Brett's obviously a bit of a spotter who likes to log as many aircraft and operators as he can, as they work for his ticket agency. Great hobby!
When are the RJ's coming now?
When are the RJ's coming now?
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Perhaps the thing that annoys most observers is the constant announcements - for instance as in the IOM press in response to criticism of delays on the IOM-LCY service " the RJ70 started on the route yesterday" Hmmm? Why not just be honest guys ?
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" the RJ70 started on the route yesterday"
A bit of a spin on the truth - G-DEBE, a Flightline 146 (albeit a type from which the RJ70 is descended) started on the route recently and was also reportedly operating on Belfast today. The Irish-registered Air Malta RJ70 painted in Euromanx colours has not, as far as I know (EBitch or EDude may confirm or deny), yet made it to the Isle of Man. Any wonder they consistently fail to instill any confidence?
I suspect the most disappointed folks if, but hopefully when, Euromanx get up and running properly will be all the lease companies who have been making a fortune off them in the last six months
Anyone given any thought to who would pick up the pieces if Euromanx's hands can no longer reach deep enough into their pockets (presuming the pockets aren't leased too!)?
A bit of a spin on the truth - G-DEBE, a Flightline 146 (albeit a type from which the RJ70 is descended) started on the route recently and was also reportedly operating on Belfast today. The Irish-registered Air Malta RJ70 painted in Euromanx colours has not, as far as I know (EBitch or EDude may confirm or deny), yet made it to the Isle of Man. Any wonder they consistently fail to instill any confidence?
I suspect the most disappointed folks if, but hopefully when, Euromanx get up and running properly will be all the lease companies who have been making a fortune off them in the last six months
Anyone given any thought to who would pick up the pieces if Euromanx's hands can no longer reach deep enough into their pockets (presuming the pockets aren't leased too!)?
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Someone has very deep pockets because the loads and the number of leased aircraft don't (on first sight) indicate a profitable set up. The Manx government could be stumping up something or Mr Seymour and his investors could be the sole backers. I would love to see the business plan.
The signs are not very good though, the latest step being to create a new handling company (I hope you have the appropriate level of insurance boys !) owned and managed by third parties, it might make business sense for Euromanx, cetainly doesn't for the handlers.
All credit to Brett he keeps singing the praises of the new regime, but what EM is really crying out for is professional airline management.
When I see two RJs (as promised!) with UK registrations, flying on a UK AOC under the name of EM I will eat my hat !!
The signs are not very good though, the latest step being to create a new handling company (I hope you have the appropriate level of insurance boys !) owned and managed by third parties, it might make business sense for Euromanx, cetainly doesn't for the handlers.
All credit to Brett he keeps singing the praises of the new regime, but what EM is really crying out for is professional airline management.
When I see two RJs (as promised!) with UK registrations, flying on a UK AOC under the name of EM I will eat my hat !!
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Ok Guys,
Got a question for you all? everyone knows VLM.....
Does anyone know what AOC theyr'e on?
They fly british reg aircraft....so I ask you why do you not take the p**s out of them? same set up AOC wise as euromanx. We have an Austrian A license AOC. FACT.
you may not take it seriously but the world of aviation does.
Like someone esle mentioned earlier plenty of irish reg a/c fly under other AOC's.
Happy flying dudes, keep smiling!
EB
Got a question for you all? everyone knows VLM.....
Does anyone know what AOC theyr'e on?
They fly british reg aircraft....so I ask you why do you not take the p**s out of them? same set up AOC wise as euromanx. We have an Austrian A license AOC. FACT.
you may not take it seriously but the world of aviation does.
Like someone esle mentioned earlier plenty of irish reg a/c fly under other AOC's.
Happy flying dudes, keep smiling!
EB
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I beg to differ, see below:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=039006
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=227494
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=207276
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I beg to differ, see below:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=039006
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=227494
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=207276
EB
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