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Old 8th Feb 2005, 08:16
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GMIMA

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Rumour has it, that the 3 legs on the otherside of the aircraft have been painted the wrong way round - maybe that is why they keep delaying it.

Love the Eire reg on it, As MANX as The Hills Yessar.

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Can assure you this is not the case, but nice try. lol

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Have you started to pack your bags yet?
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Old 8th Feb 2005, 10:48
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touch&go, fragul

Cheers for the comments. FYI I'm on a diet, can't let the rock sink after all these years!

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Old 9th Feb 2005, 07:33
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So come on then guys when is something going to happen ? Lots of talk and promises, pictures of RJ's in Manx colours, talks of Dash 8's when, when when.

The latest i heard was they are going to draft in one of Club 328's aircraft, and what's all this about about an Austrian AOC?

Hope its not all smoke and mirrors!
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Old 9th Feb 2005, 07:33
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When is the IOM-MAN going to start? There is no mention of a MAN service on their web-site, so obviously no bookings are being taken. The rumoured 28th March start-up date doesn't look too good if you can't book on it.
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Old 9th Feb 2005, 19:35
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Club328 AOC

Quote "The latest i heard was they are going to draft in one of Club 328's aircraft, and what's all this about about an Austrian AOC?"

Well Nowcharm Ltd t/a Club328 don't currently have a UK AOC or Class A License (Application published in OF2 1674 14/12/04). They are currently running on a Class B License as Nowcharm Ltd t/a Bookajet (All info freely available on CAA website). Class B licenses are for smaller aircraft and have limited financial requirements

So this means that they will have to go thru Financial Fitness before they can operate RJ / Dash 8 / Zepplins.....whatever. So what's the chance of that happening? Wasn't that one of the reason's Euromanx never actually got round to the dirty business of running their own aircraft, much better to be a "ticket provider" and walk away from airlines if they're in trouble??
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Old 9th Feb 2005, 21:53
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Dont think i will be packing me bags just yet Euro Tart, we are here to stay.

But on the other hand, looking at the torride state of affairs at EM, Mr seymore will soon be looking else where to invest. you have 4 months and 2 weeks to sort yourselves out then u go bye bye.



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Old 10th Feb 2005, 07:18
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GMIMA - Did I miss something? what is the significance of 4mths and two weeks i.e the end of Jun.

Good point about the Class A. Do Euromanx have one?
Please tell me this whole exercise isn't just an attempt to drum up investors.

Anyone know when the agreement with Denim expires?
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Old 10th Feb 2005, 09:10
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Euromanx Class A

No Euromanx don't have a Class A, that's why the CAA made them change their website from "we operate" to "we are a ticket provider" for whichever airline they can con for the moment.

As was expressed elsewhere, what's the passengers standpoint on this "ticket provider" scam. They book with Euromanx as an agent for Rossair when when they get to the airport, its Denim Air or someother carrier? Who's terms & conditions are they flying under??

As for the Class A, financial fitness is always going to be the stumbling block for EuroManx/Club 328/Nowcharm or whoever.
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Old 10th Feb 2005, 10:36
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A flightline BAe146-200 G-DEBE is operating flights IOM LCY today under AAG callsign.
 
Old 10th Feb 2005, 11:57
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Whether it will fly for Euromanx or not there is an RJ70 newly painted in Euromanx colours sitting outside the hangar at Exeter.
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Old 10th Feb 2005, 15:08
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Yes,picture already linked to, further back in this thread. Go and get up to speed!
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Exclamation Eurobitch - Any answers ?

Eurobitch, as you seem to be in the know, how will the RJ be able to operate on an Austrian AOC & registerd in eire?

And how has the Club 328 Dornier 328 jet been allowed to operate (not sure on whose AOC) using Denim air callsigns ??
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Old 10th Feb 2005, 20:18
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PLENTY of Irish registered aircraft operating worldwide on leases,so there must be a way!
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Old 10th Feb 2005, 21:27
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SEEN G DEBE at egns tonight. must be costing Euro Trash a packet. that route has never performed, even when flybe had it. must be like throwing money into a bottomless pit. But keep going eurotrash as its very entertaining to watch.

Loved the comments in the IOM papers about extremly unhappy pax on the LCY - but hey, i love to bitch

4 months 1 week and 6 days. LOL
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Old 11th Feb 2005, 07:03
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Come on GMIMA whats the countdown about ?
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Old 11th Feb 2005, 08:30
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Any sign of the dash -8
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Old 11th Feb 2005, 08:33
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No disrespect to GIMIMA but there is no relevence to HIS countdown.
He is an ex fly be ground / ops person who obviously followed his dreams like we all do and got a commercial pilots licence, after going through the normal waiting thing that pilots have to do to get a career start he got a job on the jet stream with Eastern. fantastic.
I have no problem with that, i do however wonder how a pilot from another airline would know more about a company than its own empoyees?

GIMIMA

Are you just getting a bit nervous of learning to park remote? or is something more bothering you?

And as for me knowing how the AOC is going, im a lowly dispatcher / customer services gal, I tend to leave that stuff to the big boys upstairs who know what they're doing. All I know is we have an A licence and our new a/c will all be here shortly.

Be patient guys, Rome wasnt built in a day and im sure neither was the origonal Manx Airline, but hey it will be excellent when we get there, and as a proud member of staff I can say its been alot of fun and hard work along the way.

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Old 11th Feb 2005, 12:20
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There's an item on the Rumours forum saying Emerald may be pulling off the IOM-LPL at the end of March, if its true that's one battle won for EM.
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Old 11th Feb 2005, 12:49
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The only way to stop all this implied criticism of Euromanx will be for the airline to become an airline, operating a standard fleet of aircraft and overall appearing to be an Isle of Man, or at least a UK, company. Euromanx has been built up as a glorified travel agency chartering aircraft to operate its routes. It is not an airline yet but has the basis to become one once the CAA approve its licence, it has lodged the necessary financial bonds, gets its crews on the payroll etc. It is to be assumed that the application for a Type A licence by Novacharm/Club 328's in December, still not approved as of the CAA's February 8th official publication, was to get an AOC for Euromanx but who knows?

Sure, the aircraft is in their colours but for as long as their services are being operated by a variety of airlines, credibility will be hard to come by or, at best, grudgingly given. Once they are up and running with their own fleet (or at least a fleet leased by Euromanx, the airline, rather than Euromanx, the travel agency), more people will believe.

Until then, the rumours and innuendo will keep us all tuned in. Even if it operates on an Austrian or Irish operators certificate, it will at least have grown up and demand credibility.
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Old 11th Feb 2005, 16:29
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Not a chance emerald is pulling the plug on pax operations. Id imagine they have got their eyes on a/c to bring in at short notice to help the iom when the ever moaning euromanx eventually run out of tickets to sell for other airlines

Euromanx is a cowboy operation which is a shame for the IOM population! Ill give it to them for trying but they are doing everything wrong, a different leased a/c everyday, no respect to the airport, trying to bypass regulations, advertising falsley to the public - the list goes on!!. Feel sorry for the staff!!
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