New routes for Bristols new extension
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CO use a CLC system that does tend to tie up one dispatcher for the entire time the aircraft is on the ground. It requires various screens to be updated and yes one does include the runway conditions. Once people know how to use CO's system these screens will take a few minutes each to update. The system doesn’t really look that difficult to use. Its just time consuming because it’s a new system that none of us have used before. The best way to learn how to use it is not in a training room but to use it operationally. I really want to give it a go where as some others aren’t that enthusiastic but I don’t think I’ll be given the chance as CO wants a small dedicated team of dispatchers.
With the location of the computer, a "runner" is needed to take the paperwork to the aircraft though there is talk of a printer being installed at one of the gates.
Two dispatchers on a transatlantic US flight isn't new. All US flights I have dispatched before have had two of us. There didn't need to be 3 guys working the aircraft on Friday but it just happened because of the amount of management requesting this and that plus various little problems you always get with a turnaround. Because of all this the "runner" would have needed to stay at the aircraft but couldn't so a third guy who was flight was delayed kept an eye whilst he was away collecting paperwork.
With the location of the computer, a "runner" is needed to take the paperwork to the aircraft though there is talk of a printer being installed at one of the gates.
Two dispatchers on a transatlantic US flight isn't new. All US flights I have dispatched before have had two of us. There didn't need to be 3 guys working the aircraft on Friday but it just happened because of the amount of management requesting this and that plus various little problems you always get with a turnaround. Because of all this the "runner" would have needed to stay at the aircraft but couldn't so a third guy who was flight was delayed kept an eye whilst he was away collecting paperwork.
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Thanks for that info, intresting stuff, as I said in my original post 'i'm sure it will all sort itself out' it's bound to take a bit of time for everyone to get used to the CO system, and as you said give it a bit of time and they'll be doing it in a matter of mins, any ideas on the loads yet?
Also I heard about some guy from Euromanx going nuts at the S-air and the airport last night for parking them on stand 6 and not coaching them to the terminal!
What an arrogant sod, think the charterer Hol Options should change airlines, we don't want attitude like that here in BRS thank you very much, besides I thought stand 6 was not allowed coaches on there?
Thanks for that info, intresting stuff, as I said in my original post 'i'm sure it will all sort itself out' it's bound to take a bit of time for everyone to get used to the CO system, and as you said give it a bit of time and they'll be doing it in a matter of mins, any ideas on the loads yet?
Also I heard about some guy from Euromanx going nuts at the S-air and the airport last night for parking them on stand 6 and not coaching them to the terminal!
What an arrogant sod, think the charterer Hol Options should change airlines, we don't want attitude like that here in BRS thank you very much, besides I thought stand 6 was not allowed coaches on there?
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W - stand 6 is a walking stand - I don't think there's really enough room for coaches to get in and out especially if there's another a/c on stand 5. And even so, there's not much point coaching pax from 6 - they'll still get wet twice if it's raining!
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No it wasn't a passanger, it was a head honcho from Euromanx who was demanding a coach for his pax! Tore strips of the arrival agent, then went downstairs and had a pop at the airport DM that was on shift apparently, and this is after Ops advised the A/C via radio that they cannot coach from that stand, and redfield is right, it was hammering down last night when it came in, so either way the pax would of got a tad damp!
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A bus for the crew to the old terminal maybe but for passengers just can't be done. Anyone know what the airport DM said? Would be interesting.
Fair play the rain was something else yesterday. Soaked to the bone was I (must ask for some waterproofs). The ramp was closed at one point yesterday because of a storm cell directly over head.
Fair play the rain was something else yesterday. Soaked to the bone was I (must ask for some waterproofs). The ramp was closed at one point yesterday because of a storm cell directly over head.
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I wonder what our new American friends will make of walking to/from the aircraft in the open air when a good old Lulsgate storm is blowing?
No cosy airbridge for them at BS 48.
No cosy airbridge for them at BS 48.
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Yeah i was soaked and i had waterproofs on!! Hows that for some good old west country WX !! Bloody shoes leaked aswell.
2 a/c got lightning strikes on their way in too, the EZY 319 from SXF, got struck on the engine i think, may be wrong though,went tech for bout 4 hrs i think, also think the Euromanx got hit too, but no extensive damage, well apart from the head honcho onboard, he probably s**t himself and thats why he couldn't run the 10 yds from the a/c to the tunnel
2 a/c got lightning strikes on their way in too, the EZY 319 from SXF, got struck on the engine i think, may be wrong though,went tech for bout 4 hrs i think, also think the Euromanx got hit too, but no extensive damage, well apart from the head honcho onboard, he probably s**t himself and thats why he couldn't run the 10 yds from the a/c to the tunnel
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Pax figures BRS-EWR so far: 159 / 162 / 98 / 86 / 110 / 112. These are totals - I'm not sure how many are first class pax. EWR-BRS figures have been 91 / 79 / 101 / 91 / 76 / 121.
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Well apparently theyre 20 or so pax over booked for tomorrow(bank hol) in economy, but ten spare in business first, but then it is bank hol so it makes sense that econ is full as prob not many business travellers for bank hol wkd
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redfield and WATABENCH,
How accurate is the CO website seat selector as a guide to loads?
I have kept an eye on the seat selector recently and for the first seven flights on the EWR-BRS sector the number of business/first seats shown as ‘occupied’ was 16 (the maximum) on each flight except that of 25/26 May when 11 were shown.
Going westbound the number of business/first seats shown occupied in the first week was respectively 15, 3, 11, 11, 6, 13 and 6.
I don’t know how accurate a measure of seats actually sold this seat selector is. On most days this week it showed more seats occupied than redfield's figures, which I take to be correct because of his knowledge of BRS matters. I suppose the seat selector could be an accurate indicator prior to a flight, with the discrepancy down to ‘no shows’.
Tonight’s eastbound currently shows 131 occupied seats, including all 16 business/first seats occupied.
Tomorrow’s westbound at present shows 158 occupied seats, including 8 business/first and Saturday's westbound 155, including 9 business/first. It would be interesting to know how many actually fly.
How accurate is the CO website seat selector as a guide to loads?
I have kept an eye on the seat selector recently and for the first seven flights on the EWR-BRS sector the number of business/first seats shown as ‘occupied’ was 16 (the maximum) on each flight except that of 25/26 May when 11 were shown.
Going westbound the number of business/first seats shown occupied in the first week was respectively 15, 3, 11, 11, 6, 13 and 6.
I don’t know how accurate a measure of seats actually sold this seat selector is. On most days this week it showed more seats occupied than redfield's figures, which I take to be correct because of his knowledge of BRS matters. I suppose the seat selector could be an accurate indicator prior to a flight, with the discrepancy down to ‘no shows’.
Tonight’s eastbound currently shows 131 occupied seats, including all 16 business/first seats occupied.
Tomorrow’s westbound at present shows 158 occupied seats, including 8 business/first and Saturday's westbound 155, including 9 business/first. It would be interesting to know how many actually fly.
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Airport website and Eastern Apron website plan both showed CO 77 departing at 1910. Rather intriguing is that both websites showed the scheduled time of departure as 1500 when it is advertised as 1110.
The BRS web arrivals page shows the inbound arriving at 0850 this morning.
In a press release on the their website concerning the Bank Holiday weekend an airport representative stated that the westbound flights today and tomorrow are fully booked. In fact, there was a suggestion in this thread that today's westbound was over-booked.
Good news about the loads but not about the apparent long delay.
Perhaps one of our BRS colleagues on here will enlighten us as to the reason.
The BRS web arrivals page shows the inbound arriving at 0850 this morning.
In a press release on the their website concerning the Bank Holiday weekend an airport representative stated that the westbound flights today and tomorrow are fully booked. In fact, there was a suggestion in this thread that today's westbound was over-booked.
Good news about the loads but not about the apparent long delay.
Perhaps one of our BRS colleagues on here will enlighten us as to the reason.
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From what i could work out speaking to the Rep quickly, i believe it was a tech delay caused by a door problem, a part had to be brought in from MAN, not sure if it arrived via WOW or by road thus delaying the a/c, It was ment to go at its normal STD then was delayed til 1500, which was on dept board in terminal, then unfortunatley crept til 1900.
Wait for the synical sod whos going to say 'are you sure its not because of performance issues during hot WX, they should of sent it to CWL'
Well i'm waiting!! LOL
Wait for the synical sod whos going to say 'are you sure its not because of performance issues during hot WX, they should of sent it to CWL'
Well i'm waiting!! LOL
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Delay was due to door chute inflation bottle reading low therefore it was a no go item.
As for the performance, not a problem, I asked the Capt this question, while the sun was beating down on the concrete apron, he advised me, provided it was below 29c they would not have to look at the performance data again
As for the performance, not a problem, I asked the Capt this question, while the sun was beating down on the concrete apron, he advised me, provided it was below 29c they would not have to look at the performance data again
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That wouldn't be strictly a no-go item, they could have offloaded some pax and declare that door u/s. However, they obviously didn't want to do that.
Its nice to see its getting across the pond in one hop
Its nice to see its getting across the pond in one hop