If there is going to be a European LF airlines "Blood Bath", who wont survive?

[LBA]

Now that would be a turn up for the books!

Even though I am an LBA local, I wish Jet2 all the best from MAN, just hope they dont forget LBA. Allegedley new Jet2 routes from LBA are going to be announced once the ThomsonFly routes are announced out of Doncaster. Jet2s second birthday on Saturday, maybe could happen then?

I agree about the advertising BTW, seems impossible to get away from in the Yorkshire and Manchester area, they are even all over Liverpool!

[Doug the Head]

I think there is a misconception out there that Easyjet somehow don't know what to do with it's 120 airbuses. There are plenty of uses for them..but the logistics of hiring/ retraining more crews tends to slow the process down.

I tend to disagree with you on that one. Expanding plus retraining and at the same time competing in today“s cut throat market will just burn money and needlessly eat into the cash reserve. Hence you see the Airbusses replacing the 737-300“s in STN and 737-700“s in ORY, instead of being used to open up new routes.

[Hudson Bay]

Fact. If you can fly from Manchester for a similar price as flying out of Liverpool the punters will travel from Manchester every time. Liverpool Airport is a pain in the **** to get to and when you do arrive there is nothing there. Manchester Airport is a day out for people with loads of cafes and shops. John Lennon Airport sadly lacks alot.

PPP

Hudson Bay - Your post has been edited because you have chosen to make your opinion of LPL known and then followed it up with a rather stupid and pointless remark about Liverpool and Liverpudlians. Fair comment is always appreciated but please keep your prejudices to yourself. Thanks, Blue Eagle, Moderator.

[10002level]

Hudson Bay,

You obviously haven't been to LPL in recent years, so why waste space with untrue comments?

[orangetree]

Yes Doug, but in the middle of the STN rollover will be another Eastern European base full of airbuses and plans for more in existing euro bases and probably another new base after that. Until recently BFS was in line for buses but got dumped in favour of a new base (still tba). I think you have a point about how costly this can be but if they were in the mood for rationalising then outstations such as GLA, EDI, NCL, EMA would be rolled over next year. Really don't see that happening.

[Firm Touchdown]

QUOTE:

Expanding plus retraining and at the same time competing in today“s cut throat market will just burn money and needlessly eat into the cash reserve.

I think you will find that much of the conversion training is provided by Airbus as part of the deal for the aircraft order.

[Doug the Head]

I think you will find that much of the conversion training is provided by Airbus as part of the deal for the aircraft order.

From what I“ve heard through the grapevines, most of the Airbus “freebie“ cources have been used up by now.

[unwiseowl]

I think the deal was that Airbus will pay for all training?

[Scottie]

Nobody knows what the deal was as it's a secret!

Doug the Head makes a good point. By placing the Airbus in STN and other 737 bases expansion is reduced.

Mind you with 40 Airbus coming next year they're going to have to put them somewhere. I'd heard BFS too.

[orangetree]

I heard that that '40' figure had been somewhat reduced..not sure if the deal allows for that though.

[Nil further]

Doug

Suggest you read the EZY,s annual report .All the fleet retirements and expansion are there in the public domain.

"eating in to cash reserve" the annual report states cash reserves of £512 million at Sept 2004 v £360 mill last year.

Heres a bit of the fleet stuff
A319 B737-7 B737-3

Sept 2003 1 27 46
Sept 2004 21 33 38
Sept 2005 55 32 21
Sept 2006 86 32 8
Sept 2007 117 32 0



Cheers

edited as i cant make the columns line up !
sorry.
NF