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Old 6th Apr 2004, 15:44
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Bmi To Dheli And Bombay

Rumour has it that BMI are soon to announce Man to Bombay via Dheli and ditch the Washington (IAD) Anyone heard anything?
 
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isn't the carribean enough... and aren't rumours great!!!
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Old 6th Apr 2004, 16:34
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hi guys,mustnt forget the gals,

just wondering where this "dheli" is???must be somewhere in the the french reviera i guess,unless of course u meant delhi which is in india,,anyways im just being a bit rude huh

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Old 6th Apr 2004, 17:01
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Ok Delhi. I was typing too fast OK!
 
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Unless the Indian and UK governments agree to more flights in the bilateral agreement, its not possible at present. And Virgin and BA would be at the front of the queue.
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yep it's true bmi are looking to start operations to india from manchester from spring next year. As there are national elections this year in India there will not be an announcement until the end of the year. And these are not the only routes bmi are looking to start from manchester in the next 2 years!!

oh and by the way
bmi has no plans to drop the IAD from the network (as it makes so much money from cargo) but will look to reduce frquency to 4 times per week. This is because they want to keep the yyz going over the winter 3 times a week (if air canada agree)!!

why would virgin and ba be at the front of the queue
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I am happy to stand corrected on this, but I think that only the London airport system is subject to the bilateral restrictions between the UK and India. The UK went around basically declaring open skies to/from regional airports about three/four years ago subject to the appropriate foreign government reciprocating to allow carriers from both sides to operate to MAN, BHX etc. I think this was agreed with India and if so, would mean that bmi could op these routes from MAN but not from LHR. No change to the rest of its long-haul network there, then.

Also bear in mind that this may be related to Air Canada operations on MAN-YYZ. There is a substantial market between India and Canada because a large number of Indians hold Canadian passports which helps them to qualify for non-resident tax status in India. Quite apart from that, there are a lot of expatriate ties between the two countries. It is not an especially high-yield market (Air Canada pulled out due to low yields) but if you can get your costs low enough to serve it profitably, I think you can count on year-round volumes to make this work.
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I think Flightrider is correct - Air India operated A310s to Manchester for a couple of years in the 90s, but pulled off because they wanted to use the aircraft elsewhere, which suggests that regulatory approval is already there. Presumably bmi would need to acquire a 4th (at least) 330 for all this, especially if the Caribbean routes are planned to continue next summer:
1 aircraft for daily Chicago
1 aircraft for daily Toronto (in the summer at least)
1 aircraft for Washington (and India?)
1 aircraft for the Caribbean

Interesting times.....
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Old 7th Apr 2004, 13:05
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Diverging slightly but is Stansted included as a "London" airport?And also does anybody know the bilateral situation with Pakistan? I believe currently PIA operates twice as many flights as BA.
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Old 7th Apr 2004, 20:10
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I suspect if the timing was right, linking the Indian flights to the YYZ flight at MAN might be profitable... certainly BA seems to get quite a bit of that traffic when I fly LHR-YYZ.
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Old 8th Apr 2004, 07:59
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Also, it's Mumbai these days, not Bombay.


Good rumours though.
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Harrier,
I'm not sure what the bilateral says, but BA currently only fly to Islamabad; 3 flights weekly using 777's.
I think that PK has daily flights from Karachi to Heathrow, and also flies from Lahore and Islamabad. Manchester and Birmingham are also served; Manchester is actually a stop on PK's atlantic flights.
I have to go to Karachi quite regularly, it would be great if BA would resume services. I think that Swiss is the only European carrier at the moment.
www.piac.com.pk
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Old 9th Apr 2004, 09:49
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Air India wanted flight to the economic capital which was Bombay (Mumbai) , but as is typical they were only allowed flights to Dehli.... which was not really their preferred destination.

They started on the basis that they would eventually get the Bombay service....!
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Old 9th Apr 2004, 11:43
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BMI routes to India

The new civil aviation policy - when it finally emerges out of the bureaucratic wrangles is likely to lift all restrictions about bilaterals and such impediments to flights into India.

Even domestic airlines in India are likely to fly out to many destinations in SAARC and subsequently Europe by end 2004. So it is a good chance that the post is true.

I know Monarch is flying a regular Manchester -Amritsar service.
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Old 9th Apr 2004, 12:05
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Monarch also fly Nottingham East Midlands - Amritsar twice weekly.
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