Yet ANOTHER runway incursion incident - KJFK 17/4/2024
Actually, when the proliferation of mailorder handheld VHF aviation band transceivers started 25-30 years ago, one of my concerns was the possibility that some yahoo on the top floor of the parking deck could wreak havoc by barking out last minute go around orders to landing aircraft. To my knowledge, that hasn't been a issue.
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Actually, when the proliferation of mailorder handheld VHF aviation band transceivers started 25-30 years ago, one of my concerns was the possibility that some yahoo on the top floor of the parking deck could wreak havoc by barking out last minute go around orders to landing aircraft. To my knowledge, that hasn't been a issue.
No, it has not because the controller will either hear the false transmission and correct it, or they will hear the pilot read back and react immediately. , that it was it was short lived .
GNSS spoofing on RNP/RNAV approaches is what is far more worrying ...
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An active US controller could better explain this than me, but as far as I understood it , the first time I questioned this years ago , was that in the US, the FAA regulations authorizes controllers to give clearance to land if the expectation is that the runway will be clear by the time the aircraft will actually touch down ( or runway crossings are vacated ) It is more like a " continue approach " instruction than a guarantee .the runway is clear at the time the instruction is given as most of us do do in ICAOland. But waiting to be corrected.
A US (FAA endorsed accident waiting to happen) 'landing clearance' is basically no more than an admin message that you are approved to use the airport from the look of it. It has nothing to do with Air Traffic CONTROL. I do get completely wound-up about obvious 'fail-hard' procedures that most independent observers can see is a safety-critical failure that can be easily rectified.
(not having a go at you 'watcher...your post used for context!)
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So say "Continue Approach"......
A US (FAA endorsed accident waiting to happen) 'landing clearance' is basically no more than an admin message that you are approved to use the airport from the look of it. It has nothing to do with Air Traffic CONTROL. I do get completely wound-up about obvious 'fail-hard' procedures that most independent observers can see is a safety-critical failure that can be easily rectified.
(not having a go at you 'watcher...your post used for context!)
A US (FAA endorsed accident waiting to happen) 'landing clearance' is basically no more than an admin message that you are approved to use the airport from the look of it. It has nothing to do with Air Traffic CONTROL. I do get completely wound-up about obvious 'fail-hard' procedures that most independent observers can see is a safety-critical failure that can be easily rectified.
(not having a go at you 'watcher...your post used for context!)
Has happened to many crews.
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