corporal klinger

.. sorry, but after all I know now, it would be simply immoral to give further guidance how to get in this company. It really sucks at CX, and that is the truth.

pcboy

have to strip naked for the medical test? r u serious?

loungelizard

Good info, thanks Corporal.
For the medical, is the temp in the room very "cold". !!!!!!!!

Sqwak7700

"(I got the stick shaker during 45 turns,no idea why,speed was high)"

Are you serious?? Tell me you know what an accellerated stall is. It is definetely more important to know than the different types of jet-streams.

corporal klinger

My dear sq 7700( I would prefer 7600 in your case)!

I took the time and effort to share my experience.So far a couple of thousands read through it and hopefully used it to their benefit.

So far ,so good.

I thought I would have used a clear and simple language,but apparently not easy enough for you.

With saying that I do not know why the stick shaker came on I meant I WAS F*** SURPRISED THAT IT CAME ON AT THAT HIGH SPEED!!!! maybe you would kindly consider that this could actually HELP other people regarding increased awareness in that direction.

I never said that knowing the names of f**** jetstreams was important,I said it is important for anybody going TO THE F**** INTERVIEW!!!

I do accept your apologies!

Sqwak7700

Well, it looks like you need to read the post again my friend. It still doesn't seem like you know why you got the stick shaker during that maneuver. Let me give you a hint; the stick shaker is not activated by speed

I was simply pointing out that knowing important subjects like aerodynamics, which could be applied to all types, would be more useful than digging up details about jet-streams. That is all, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

There is no need to get so agitated over it

corporal klinger

A steep turn with 45 degrees bank results in 2g's.

This results in an increase of the stall speed, hence the desire to increase TAS.

It is important to keep in mind that the TAS itself has no influence on the stall speed .

The stick shaker is triggered by the angle of attack,which is a function of airspeed.The HIGHER the airspeed,the lower the AoA and vice versa.

I have really no clue what it is on your agenda,but seriously,if you are preparing for the interview,there is a long way ahead of you..

Near Miss

Almost right CK. It is 60 AOB that gives you 2g. 45 will only give you about 1.41g.

corporal klinger

uuups,that is right of course.

Sqwak7700

"The stick shaker is triggered by the angle of attack,which is a function of airspeed.The HIGHER the airspeed, the lower the AoA and vice versa."

Not really dude. Stick shaker is a function of AoA, which is affected by many things, like; weight, load factor, airspeed.

By your reasoning, you shouldn't get the stick shaker at high speeds, which as you now from your sim ride, is not accurate. The lift you requested from the wing on that 60 degree bank to maintain altitude doubled your stall speed. This is because since your speed stayed the same, to produce the same amount of lift you needed to double your AoA, which is why you got the shaker.

You need to read the posts better my friend. I've already gone through the interview process, but I appreciate you wishing me good luck. I wish you the same.

SquaK

Canadian Beech

blah blah blah...let's keep it civil, here folks, this is a family show.

Near Miss

S7700 almost. 60 degrees AoB will give you 2g which you then sqr rte to give 1.41. It is this factor which you multiply to your Vs, so if your Vs is 150kts, then in a level 60 AoB turn, the new stall speed is 212 kts.
Plus the AoA at which the wing stalls is fixed (for a given flap). It does not change with weight, AoB (which is apparent weight), speed, etc.
Hey CK in the sim was the a/c clean or did it have say 20 flap out? Oh and BTW excellent post, I've got my stage 2 next year, so any info about what to expect really helps.

corporal klinger

As far as I remember it was steeps with clean configuration.
they give you a profile when arriving in H.K.I heard especially the correct speed/flap schedule is what they want to see,keep in mind that the assisting
pilot is really of no help at all unless you tell him exactly what to do.
afterwards they ask you to judge your performance in a scale from 1 to 10...
good luck

jetset

Just as an aside, airspeed has nothing to do with AoA, but may give an indication of it if all other factors are know.

....but you knew that anyway

Jacobest

Corporal Klinger, thanks a lot for the relevant info regarding the whole process, I am sure that lots of guys will benefit greatly from your input.

Sqwak7700, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR PROBLEM? (Read it slowly)

Here you have a guy who is trying to help others and you come along and hijack the post with some technical mumbo jumbo.
If you REALLY want to show everybody how technically minded you are, why not start your own forum. Here is a recommendation for a topic.

FLYING FOR PROFESSORS: how everybody else does it wrong and I do it right by Sqwak7700


Or another one:

AERODYNAMICS: why everybody else is wrong and I am right by Sqwak7700.

And I thought the guys on the african forum fought allot.

fulham8a

I just opened pprune for the 1st time in about 3 years and can't beleive what a load of w*****s some (sqwak7700) of you are.

Thanks to Klinger for bothering to share what he found out to try and help people for the interview.

Shame on the rest of you (sqwak7700) for being so sad and tiresome, showing off your 'awesome' technical knowledge. i bet you're great fun in the bar. Good luck with the chatting to gorgeous chicks in the internet chat rooms, you loser.

Thanks again Klinger.

Please don't bother replying to me on this, i shan't be bothering with Pprune again for some time.

captnas

fly fly fly and keep on flying .

Mink

Great info, ck. Thanks for the gouge, and I appreciate your candor in pointing out the "gotchas" that may have surprised you during the process.

Mink

bombinha

Corporal thanks for all this inputs.
After all this University Physiscs discussion what really happend was that probably Corporal turned to fast and even on the right speed just didn't give enough time for the vane to adjust to the new situation.
What triggers the stick shacker is the vane out side and they can take a while to adjust if you turn too fast. Like he said it's a Dinosaur after all.
So gotta start the turn slowly and kind of a quick stop between 30 and 45 degrees that should avoid any problems.

kf2300

Do they check your medicals again, even you have a current Class 1 medical?

Do they check your eyes? Doesn't it have to be done my a Specialist in Ophthalmology?